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Old 04-12-2004, 03:10 PM   #1
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Windows managers vs. x vs ..? (general info q)


Ok, dumb information question:

What is the difference between the x-windows system, windows managers, and guis?

For instance, are KDE and gnome windows managers, or GUIs? I thought they were just windows managers themselves, but I've seen people referencing using Black-box in conjunction with KDE or gnome...

How does all this fit together?
 
Old 04-12-2004, 03:32 PM   #2
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GUI = graphical user interface

That's the most generic of terms you've
used. Every Desktop Environment (KDE,Gnome, ...)
or Window Manager (Fluxbox, ice, ... ) is a GUI,
if you start X "naked" with an xterm you have a
GUI of sorts.

X is a framework that is being used by ALL of the
above, it basically is just a protocol that allows other
tools/applications to display widgets & windows in
a convenient way (very simplified, of course it also
is network transparent).

The difference between WM and DE is that a DE tries
to unify the look and feel, and the ways applications
interact with each other (for instance there's several
ways to handle clipboards, printing and the like).


Cheers,
Tink
 
Old 04-12-2004, 03:34 PM   #3
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There are layers to this situation. When it comes to GUIs, on the bottom layer is X server (I know about the framebuffer, but it's a little different), on top of which a window manager works. The WM provides all the borders for windows. GNOME and KDE are Desktop Managers, they provide a 'desktop' space with icons and usually contain a whole suite of application. A DE uses a WM to do the window bordering details; I don't know what KDE uses but GNOME uses Metacity. However, with GNOME, any WM can be used instead.
 
Old 04-12-2004, 04:07 PM   #4
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Re: Windows managers vs. x vs ..? (general info q)

KDE uses kwin
 
Old 04-12-2004, 04:30 PM   #5
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The info here should give you a good understanding:
http://xwinman.org/
 
Old 04-12-2004, 04:39 PM   #6
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So then it is possible to use just a window manager, without the desktop environment, yes?

In which case, I assume there are config files of some sort that point the window manager to what files to open for programs?

Etc, etc...let me go read the stuff at the links. :-)

Cheers though. I appreciate it.

Does KDE allow you to use different window managers?
 
  


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