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Old 02-16-2002, 10:22 PM   #1
MeanJoshGreen
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Question windows/linux partitions???


OK, i want to have a partition on my hard drive of windows and linux. I have red hat 7.2 and, for various reasons which all suck and are too complicated to talk about here, can only use win98SE (or win95, boooooo). When I install win98, it deletes my linux partitions, and takes up the whole drive! I have heard other people talk about using win98/linux, so i assume its possible.

also, are there any tools out there (for win98) which would let me alter the size of partitions on my hd?
 
Old 02-16-2002, 10:40 PM   #2
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first install win98.. use the win98 boot up floppy and create your win98 partition using fdisk.. don't create it using all the space, it will ask you this.. create a 2 or 4 gig partition or however big you want..

after you install that on its own partition, then install linux and go thru its setup.. its easy, you just have to create your partitions correctly so windows doesn't take up the whole drive..
 
Old 02-16-2002, 10:47 PM   #3
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ok this makes sense that it will work but...

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first install win98.. use the win98 boot up floppy and create your win98 partition using fdisk..
what do you mean by this? if i use the win98 boot disk won't that take me into windows, thus defeating the purpose?? I know a lot about computers, but this is my first time dealing w/ partitions, Linux, or multiple operating systems, so please excuse me if this is easier then i think it is...
 
Old 02-16-2002, 10:56 PM   #4
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if you want a dual boot with windows and linux.. its always best to install windows first.. partition the drive, using half of the drive for windows if you want.. then after a install of windows, then install linux on the rest of the hard drive..

do not install windows using the default setup with the cd.. it won't take you to fdisk and thus therefor will most likely setup windows using the whole hard drive.. if you boot with a win98 boot up disk, that you can create from add/remove programs icon.. you can startup and use fdisk to partition the hard drive.

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Old 02-16-2002, 11:04 PM   #5
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Josh,

basially, you're gonna use fdisk to create the partition for where win98 is gonna install. When you create this partition, you wanna make it so that you leave free space for when u install linux.

Once you've created a partition (and formatted FAT32), install win98. Once installed you've install win98, proceed to install Linux.

When you do install linux, you're gonna have to install opting for the "MANUALLY" when you get the creating partition prompt during the installation, rather than the "AUTOMATIC", because if you choose the auto path, then Linux install will blow away your win98 partition.

Choosing to create the patition manual, you will then see a table display your harddrive(s). At this point, you'll be creating and designating where you want to create the Linux partition.

FEEL FREE TO CORRECT ME ON THIS ONE, ANYONE.

Josh...you might want to invest in boot manager software like System Commander (I think v7.0 is the latest). It has a partition manager built-in that works really when it comes time to create new partition, resizing existing partition, etc....
 
Old 02-17-2002, 07:34 AM   #6
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how do I format FAT32 using fdisk??
 
Old 02-17-2002, 09:04 AM   #7
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Oh my gosh.. you will know when the time comes.. use fdisk to create that partition, when you start the installation of windows, it should automatically format the drive for you..
 
Old 02-17-2002, 03:28 PM   #8
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Why system commander? lilo works just fine, it's free and come with all(or most) distros.
 
Old 02-17-2002, 03:36 PM   #9
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Why system commander? lilo works just fine, it's free and come with all(or most) distros.
What are you talking about.. think you got the wrong thread.
 
Old 02-17-2002, 08:46 PM   #10
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FORMATTING FOR WIN98

Josh, after you've created the partition, the partition(s) you just created will designated with a drive letter (I believe its option 4 in fdisk - "Display Partition...").

Exit out of fdisk, back to the dos prompt. Issue "format c:" to format the C drive. It will automatically format it FAT32. If you have other partition you've created, just repeat it on those.

Trick Kid is right, LILO is an acceptable boot manager. But I'm not sure if it has a partition manager. I've never used LILO to manage my dual boots (cuz I am newbie) but I think I'll have to start experimenting.

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Old 02-17-2002, 08:58 PM   #11
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I don't know about the partition management in RH 7.2, but Mandrake 8.1 has a GUI partition manager that's even better than the one that comes with System Commander (I used Partition Commander, which is the same one, to manage my Win98SE partitions up until installing Linux). It will lead you through the partitioning, and even has the ability to shrink the Win98 partition down to make room for Linux, if you install Win98 first and let it have the whole drive but don't fill the drive up before installing Linux.

What I did, though, when I got serious about Linux, was to buy a second 20-GB drive for about $80, and set up my Linux partitions on that added drive. Makes it much easier to manage, and now that I've totally dropped Windows from that machine I can use separate drives for my /swap and / Linux filesystems; this can significantly improve performance in some situations...

I'm reasonably certain that RedHat has something similar to Mandrake's partitioning utility, since the two distributions are so closely related...
 
Old 02-18-2002, 12:53 AM   #12
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just use Partition Magic, make a Linux ext2 partition and a swap file. i got windows XP and linux redhat 7.2 installed and it was beautifully done.

PM7 rocks
 
Old 02-18-2002, 07:02 AM   #13
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Hi MeanJoshGreen,
Reading your postings, I think that you need the simplest solution:
Get the Mandrake distro somehow, then proceed as follows:
- Install Win98 as it likes (you may also let it use the whole HDD, never mind!)
- Install Mandrake and when it asks, tell it to shrink windows and install to the space freed-up this way.
 
Old 02-18-2002, 09:29 AM   #14
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Quick clearification on FAT32 format. When you issue the fdisk command (fdisk c you are prompted with something equivalent to: Do you want to enable support for large disks? If you answer yes to this question then when you format your drive (format c you will be using FAT32, if you answer no then when you format you will be formatting FAT (or FAT16). It all starts here!

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