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Old 07-17-2002, 10:43 PM   #1
colombo3
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Will this system work with Mandrake?


Hello!
I am totally new to Linux (so I guess I'm in the right place )

I just built the following system and would like to know it it will work with Mandrake 8.0:

AMD 2100+
Asus A7V266-E (has onboard sound & RAID)
2x 512 MB PC2100 RAM
2 WD 80 GB HDs on RAID 0
Radeon 8500 video card
CD rom (EDO)
Cd-RW (Pacific Digital)
DVD (EDO)
generic 56K modem
Belkin network PCI card connected to Belkin router

It is currently running both Windows 98SE and XP, but I would like to learn Linux and was told that Mandrake was the easiest. From what I've read, I gather that there is no driver for the RAID setup? Asus does not have one on their website (only for 2 other Linux distros).

I'd really hate to have to start over and lose the RAID by running the hard drives separate (this is my first build and it took me almost a month to get even this far), and even if I did that, I still don't know where to find the rest of the mobo drivers.

I'd be willing to wait and see if divers become available, but I still need to make the rest of the partitions on the hard drive. Currently only have one approx 15GB partition for the 98 OS, and one approx 15GB partition for XP's OS, and would like to start getting some of my other programs installed (will have separate partitions for these). Can I set aside partitions for Linux now, and then use them when I am able? And if so how many of which type of partitions? I can use PartitionMagic to set these up.

I realize this is a long post, but would really appreciate anyone's assistance!


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Old 07-17-2002, 11:05 PM   #2
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PM is da bomb!

Linux is meant to work on ANY computers. It's just a matter of time before a stable RAID driver/module comes out. You're best off waiting & checking out www.linux.org for hardware compatibility.

As for partitioning, I'd recommend this even though a modern Linux distro takes up to 3GB.

80gb hda
15gb, FAT32, W98, primary
15gb, NTFS, WXP, primary
10gb, ext2, LINUX, primary

80gb hdb
80gb, FAT32, W98, primary

Create a My Doc... folder on D:\ and save everything there.

"Can I set aside partitions for Linux now, and then use them when I am able?" - Affirmative.

" I still don't know where to find the rest of the mobo drivers." www.asus.com > products> your mobo> download drivers.
 
Old 07-17-2002, 11:18 PM   #3
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Re: Will this system work with Mandrake?

Quote:
Originally posted by colombo3
Hello!
I am totally new to Linux (so I guess I'm in the right place )

I just built the following system and would like to know it it will work with Mandrake 8.0:

AMD 2100+
Asus A7V266-E (has onboard sound & RAID)
2x 512 MB PC2100 RAM
2 WD 80 GB HDs on RAID 0
Radeon 8500 video card
CD rom (EDO)
Cd-RW (Pacific Digital)
DVD (EDO)
generic 56K modem
Belkin network PCI card connected to Belkin router

Chip... fine, of course.

The Mobo, by parts:
The Promise ATA133/Raid controller, nope, support is in 2.4.19-rc1, but isn't in 2.4.18, the Mandrake 8.2 shipping kernel.
The onboard sound is a C-Media CMI8738, which is I'm almost certain covered by the alsa list, Mandrake's sound drivers, everyone else uses OSS.

RAM... fine, 1 Gig... yummmy. Linux doesn't have to take an extra parameter until you beat 2Gb.

The DVD, in order to play movies is going to take some work as there is no legal licensed Linux DVD player... but plenty out there in source code form. Just make certain to install the "developer" series in the Mandrake sets... or if you're feeling adventureous, "everything".

In order to avoid vendor specific drivers for cd-rws, Linux's back-end burning program, cdrecord, forces everything to emulate being a scsi device... nifty eh? it works fine.

Generic 56k modem, almost definately will not work. I won't go off on the winmodem speech, www.google.com/linux for its exact model info and maybe the vendor made some Linux drivers... I wouldn't hope much.

The Belkin gear... almost definately. I haven't run accross an unsupported card in a while, and that was ISA. Post its model info here if you're really worried, but I wouldn't sweat it.

The Radeon 8500, aiw? the tv-in I think is a headache, although Kewp might be able to illucidate that better. The accelerated graphics modes... should handle everything fine.

Don't worry about long posts... look at me!

Cheers,

Finegan
 
Old 07-17-2002, 11:19 PM   #4
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Jetblackz,
I realize this is a really basic question, but besides being new to Linux, I'm pretty new to everything computerwise. As for the partitioning. ..If I set aside just the single Linux partition, when Linux installs will everything it needs reside on THAT partition, or will it be making other parititions? It's not two separate 80GB HD's, RAID 0 makes computer think it's one big 160GB drive.

As stated in previous post, I checked Asus' website, but they don't have drivers for Madrake, only Caldera, Red Hat, and SuSE. I take it that none of these would work?
Would another Linux distro be a better choice for this mobo? I'd really like to get out of Bill Gates evil clutches
 
Old 07-17-2002, 11:30 PM   #5
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Finegan,
Thanks for the reply.
Not too worried about the modem, since I'm using DSL. Just use the modem for faxes, but can do that from other computer if I have to, until I see a good deal on a compatable modem. It was the RAID that most concerned me. Would another Linux distro work with this?

I did see that there were ATI drivers available, so I wasn't too worried about the video card. Not doing anything fancy with it yet anyway and the DVD player can wait.

Just really didn't want to have to unistall the RAID, which then of course means I have to reinstall the other OSes. Don't think hubby is quite ready for just Linux. I'm lucky if I can get him to send his own email
 
Old 07-17-2002, 11:32 PM   #6
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Ignore me on the raid controller... its a PDC20265, I thought it was a pdc20274, biiiiiiig difference. I don't think you can use it for RAID, but you can sure get it to work as an ata100 controller under Linux out of the box.

Heck, just boot the Mandrake CD and find out if it sees drives... Mandy is pretty good with that.

Cheers,

Finegan
 
Old 07-17-2002, 11:33 PM   #7
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As it was pointed by fin, if you want your RAID array functioning you either wait or get your hands dirty on compiling spanking new kernel 2.4.19-rc1 or later, if RAID will not be involved it shouldn't be a problem. As for partitions number, it's up to you to decide if you want one huge / partition (known as root) or you want to scatter the space among multiple partitions, in the former case if your system is going down it takes everything with it, in the later case in such a destructive matter you can save your personal data at least.
 
Old 07-17-2002, 11:34 PM   #8
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the only thing i would be concerned about is the video card, it's an ATI

my Celeron has an ATI and the drivers i managed to find didn't work worth crap. nVidia has excellent driver support for Linux on the other hand.
 
Old 07-17-2002, 11:35 PM   #9
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My bad I haven't done any research on the mobo, so I relied on info provided, if RAID controller is supported then just go ahead, and soon we'll see you in La-La-Land.
 
Old 07-17-2002, 11:52 PM   #10
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Everyone,
I was tempted to do exactly as advised and just see if it runs. Heck that's what I did with the Windows installs

Neo,
I already have the 2 15GB partitions for the windows OS's (win98 is on C:, and for some reason XP put itself on G: . I was going to add a bunch of others on an extended partition so I could keep stuff separate, such as one for photos, one for music, one just for windows programs, one for downloads, etc.. This is why I need to figure out exactly how to set up the linux partitions before adding my other windows partitions. I'd like to break stuff up so I don't have to worry about data loss. So how would you set up a 160GB HD? (actually closer to 152 GB, it lost(??) the rest during format somehow)
 
Old 07-18-2002, 12:59 AM   #11
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Yep, in earlier days you'd scream if you loose a couple of Kb of space Luckily, these days are over. Ok here it is:
1. Multiple partitions
/boot ext3/reiserFS 40MB is enough
/ ext3/reiserFS 300 MB
/usr ext3/reiserFS >=30GB is more then enough if you don't install everything you can get your hands on Almost all the apps you are installing are going there by default
/tmp ext3/reiserFS 5GB to store temp files and large d/l while they are in progress
/var ext3/reiserFS 3GB all the logs and variable files are there by default
/opt ext3/reiserFS 10GB for all optinal software you might need
/home ext3/reiserFS >90GB
and of course the rest windows, what is it, 30GB?
2. Two linux partitions and windows partitions:
/ ext3/reiserFS >=70GB
/home ext3/reiserFS >90GB
the rest for windows.
Hope you are not lost here.
Good luck, and happy linuxing
Cheers
Neo
 
Old 07-18-2002, 02:04 AM   #12
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The 160 GB is the linear space, literally 16000000000 bytes. A megabyte is really 1024 (2 to the tenth) kilobytes, which is really 1024 bytes... Do the division and you'll make it to around 152.

Cheers,

Finegan
 
Old 07-18-2002, 03:04 AM   #13
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For starter, I wouldn't recommend breaking things up too much since you'd have a hell of time looking for something in the right place.

*BSD requires more than one "blocks". Linux can do all on one partition. "when Linux installs will everything it needs reside on THAT partition, or will it be making other parititions?" Yep.

The key here is to NOT format that Linux partition. You have PM and you know you can move a part around back & forth. Leave that part right after the last Windows.

[-98-][-xp][-unformatted-][-whatever-]

15 + 15 + 10 + 120 = 160 roughly. You'll prolly lose a few gigs.

I stick with my original recommendation. As you gain skills, you'll want to fiddle with partitioning. One step at a time. Don't jump.

As for data loss, it's a matter of maintenance. If there are bad sectors, there is nothing you can do about it. Period.

Scandisk, defrag regularly. Wipe free space also. Norton or Eraser. Buy a UPS ASAP. Don't wait until a power blackout strikes you.

As for d:\my_doc, you can create other folders for like this:

d:\my_photo
d:\my_video
d:\linux\distros\etc.
d:\shared

Good luck and have fun.

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Old 07-18-2002, 10:54 AM   #14
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Quote:
Originally posted by ShawnD
the only thing i would be concerned about is the video card, it's an ATI

my Celeron has an ATI and the drivers i managed to find didn't work worth crap. nVidia has excellent driver support for Linux on the other hand.
That card should work fine, I have an ATI card (not the one mentioned though) in a machine with a Celeron and it works like a champ..
 
Old 07-18-2002, 03:01 PM   #15
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Ok, on a side note, as I read this post, I think of two things:

1.) Just a general *drooling* over the system!

2.) Noticed that colombo is a she and that the HE in the house is the one not ready for Linux! lol I like that alot! I say get on witcha self and do what feels right. Like Finegan suggested also, just throw in the CD, you really should be fine...He is one smart mothuh...Shut yo mouth...I'm just talkin' bout Fin!
 
  


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