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Old 07-01-2004, 07:54 PM   #1
baby_linu
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Why the sound in Linux sucks!!!


hi
Sound is creating problems everytime in Linux. In Linux i can run only one application at a time which is using the sound.But in Windows i can run no. of applications!
Why it is happening?? When i am logging into KDE the process like kalarm is starting and my sound is blocking!!! Why that sound is not a sharable resource in Linux??


 
Old 07-01-2004, 08:15 PM   #2
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i hears alsa is supposed to let you play multiple sounds, but i haven't had any luck

umm, you shall have to set up every program that wants sound (unless you fix alsa, don't ask me whats wrong with it, i got the same problem i think?) ,, set it up to use a sound server/ sound deamon, whatever its called

i don't know what or if KDE has a program for this, but esound is usually popular, and supported by the most popular linux programs (mplayer, gaim, xmms, etc)

http://www.tux.org/~ricdude/news.html
 
Old 07-01-2004, 08:21 PM   #3
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KDE's sound-daemon is called artsd


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Old 07-02-2004, 12:51 AM   #4
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In 3 or so years I have had NO problems with any application(KDE or otherwise) playing sound at the same time..........

but I don't use ALSA either...............

the linux developers decided that ALSA was better than OSS
............not a smart move at all..........
 
Old 07-02-2004, 03:07 AM   #5
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since you said kde, you can run most programs through artsdsp to get that program's sounds mixed in with other kde programs' sounds (note this doesn't work for every program though, but should for most).

ex.

artsdsp <program_name_or_path_to_program>

ie...

artsdsp /usr/local/mozilla/mozilla OR artsdsp /usr/local/games/ut2003_demo/ut2003_demo

etc...

remember to make sure you start arts when you login to kde.

Last edited by megaspaz; 07-02-2004 at 03:09 AM.
 
Old 07-02-2004, 06:21 AM   #6
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artsd?

Hi,

I had a load of problems with my sound card and acpi in SuSE - I finally worked out what the problem was, but along the way I think I may have screwed up artsd. Are there any instructions on how to re-install arts and get sound working in KDE again?

Cheers,

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Old 07-02-2004, 09:24 AM   #7
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Most of those sound problems are completely fixed if you use kernel 2.6 (alsa is build-in).

Quote:
the linux developers decided that ALSA was better than OSS
............not a smart move at all..........
Why would it be still better than alsa ?
 
Old 07-02-2004, 12:36 PM   #8
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Angry no,no,no

I had a huge amount of problems with SuSE 9.1 2.6.5-75 kernel and alsa with the via82xx driver. I think the jury is still out on whether having alsa hard wired to the kernel is "better".

For example, imho it's a real pain in the arse to have to recompile the kernel, to remove alsa support, such that you can then compile a loadable module based on newer alsa drivers.

Just my 2p's worth.

Jon
 
Old 07-02-2004, 01:11 PM   #9
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Quote:
Originally by 320mb:

but I don't use ALSA either...............

the linux developers decided that ALSA was better than OSS
............not a smart move at all..........
This has to be one of the first times i've seen someone say (admit?) this. Granted I haven't been looking either.
It's nice to know I'm not alone. Alsa has always (to me) seemed like a big pain in the a$$ for little or no noticable benifit. Maybe with a high end card I might feel different but I don't know

I don't understand why it's not smart though - the dicision over OSS that is. I'm not familiar with the issues
 
Old 07-02-2004, 06:58 PM   #10
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i prefer alsa over oss just because alsa supports more,, and most new things are a pain in the ass
 
Old 07-03-2004, 11:42 AM   #11
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Unhappy yeah alsa's great

but why put it in the kernel? I mean, what fukwit decided that? So whenever there's a new version of alsa you have to patch and then recompile the kernel (a real pain in the arse). Much better to have it as a loadable module, which you can compile whenever you need to without screwing up a perfectly working kernel. That would seem to make much more sense to me.

Jon.
 
Old 07-03-2004, 05:56 PM   #12
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It's just integrated into the kernel source tree, you still have the choice of compiling it as a loadable module or inside the kernel, and you can easily patch the code to the latest version and then recompile only the modules.

Last edited by Demonbane; 07-03-2004 at 05:58 PM.
 
Old 07-03-2004, 06:17 PM   #13
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I don know what to call the sounds (music) produced during boot are (is) called but its very choppy. I cant even imagine how bad a CD or Mp3 will sound. Is there a fix. I have a soundblaster live card
 
  


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