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Old 03-08-2009, 06:37 PM   #16
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Old 03-08-2009, 08:06 PM   #17
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Right, the good news is, we are running the same processor and graphics card. The bad news is, it looks like we will need to manually install the correct graphics driver. If we get everything in place it should be a relatively painless process.

What I need to know is what kernel version you are running so I can direct you to the correct kernel-source to install. To find your kernel version (if you don't already know how) start a konsole (terminal) session and type:
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uname -r
and post the result here.

Also download the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.29-pkg1.run file from here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_d...32_180.29.html and save it to your /home/username folder.

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What is focus stealing prevention?
That is suppose to stop applications you open from stealing the focus from another application that is already have running. For example: You have OpenOffice running, then you start up Firefox. If you type, OpenOffice should still receive the keyboard input not Firefox even though it was the most recently started application.
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Block Global Shortcuts?
Let's say you have an application the uses a certain key combo to perform an action, but because that key combo has already been assigned as a KDE or Gnome shortcut you won't get the desired result. So in that case you would block the KDE or Gnome global shortcut, which means the key combo will now work correctly for that application.

I take it you are just having a look around the KDE Control Centre? When you select an option under one of the various sections, like Desktop--> Behavior click the Help button and a manual should open up and give you a description as well as usage info.
 
Old 03-09-2009, 05:58 PM   #18
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I followed the link and downloaded, but I don't know if I installed it properly. I tried what it said on the site. At least I have gone further into the murky world of Linux, without bringing on a natural disaster! I got to a GUI which said I couldn't go any further without closing the xserver. I tried rebooting into text only, but then I got an error there too!.
The kernel is: 2.6.17-13mdvlegacy. I hope you are trying to develop patience, and I am grateful for the time you have taken so far to attempt to help me! If only there was a reset button that would restore the windows to their defaults.
 
Old 03-09-2009, 08:10 PM   #19
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Don't worry about my patience I have loads You have gotten slightly ahead of me here, all I wanted you to do is download the driver and let me know the other bits of info. I would then tell you what to do next. Not to worry, no harm done.

You need to start your Mandriva Control Centre then go to Install & Remove Software.

Type kernel-source in the search box and hit enter.

Look through the list and install the kernel-source that matches 2.6.17-13mdvlegacy

Once you have done that you might want to either write down or print off the following:

1. Log out of the desktop.

2. Press Alt & Ctrl & F1

3. Log in as root

4. Type: telinit 3 then press enter. (If the screen appears to be stuck and no command prompt reappears, press enter again)

5. Type: cd /home/<your username here> and press enter.

6. Type: ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.29-pkg1.run (in fact ./NVIDIA*.run should work also) and press enter.

The install process will now start. Answer yes to everything. Once the process has completed do the following:

7. Type: telinit 5 and press enter.

You will now be taken back to the login screen. You just need to log out as root then you can log in and test your window appearance.

To log out as root do: Alt & Ctrl & F1 (Again, if the screen appears to be stuck and no command prompt is there, press enter again)

Type exit to log out of root, then do: Alt & F7 to get back to the login screen.

Hopefully there are no problems and your Nvidia driver is installed and working correctly now.

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Old 03-10-2009, 05:47 PM   #20
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By now uncle bill's (XP) operating system would be a smoking wreck, but mandy has not even crashed,... but I can only find kernel-source-2.6.17.13mdv-1-1mdv2007.1.i586 not the one with legacy on the end, is it the same? It seemed to hang when I okayed it to download the dependancies, or should I wait a while for it to download? Down the list there is an entry for kernel-source-latest-2.6.17-13mdv.i586. I stopped the downlod until I am sure this is the right one to use. Do they do linux How-To's for very young children? That is where I feel I am. And I am very grateful for your time and help. I still cannot figure these misbehaving windows either.
 
Old 03-10-2009, 10:31 PM   #21
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By now uncle bill's (XP) operating system would be a smoking wreck, but mandy has not even crashed,... but I can only find kernel-source-2.6.17.13mdv-1-1mdv2007.1.i586 not the one with legacy on the end, is it the same? It seemed to hang when I okayed it to download the dependancies, or should I wait a while for it to download? Down the list there is an entry for kernel-source-latest-2.6.17-13mdv.i586. I stopped the downlod until I am sure this is the right one to use. Do they do linux How-To's for very young children? That is where I feel I am. And I am very grateful for your time and help. I still cannot figure these misbehaving windows either.
I agree, winblows is not very forgiving of the curious user, often punishing them with the 'Blue Screen Of Death' when it cannot (or will not) comply!

Fixing problems (especially remotely) can be a time consuming process. As long as you are willing to keep at it, I am more than willing to provide any assistance where I can.

Installing kernel-source-latest-2.6.17-13mdv.i586 would be a good move. It will ensure you always have the latest kernel-source installed. Handy for when you need to compile and install applications/drivers for yourself.

If this kernel-source-2.6.17.13mdv-1-1mdv2007.1.i586 is the closest matching source, then this is the one to install along with the kernel-source-latest-2.6.17-13mdv.i586 package.

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Do they do linux How-To's for very young children? That is where I feel I am.
This is understandable. Initially there is a steep learning curve. However, this levels out the more you use your system and gain a better understanding of how things are done.

There are plenty of How-To's. I will post links to the places I find useful once we have resolved your current problems.

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Old 03-11-2009, 06:04 PM   #22
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First bit done... I think. Second bit I get one of those misbehaving windows, which I cannot scroll through, or enlarge. The message disappears off the sides. The bottom line as a friend of my wife and me would say reads:
'pmi skip list. Do you want to select it anywa'
 
Old 03-12-2009, 12:15 AM   #23
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First bit done... I think...
The Nvidia driver installation or OpenOffice 3?
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...Second bit I get one of those misbehaving windows, which I cannot scroll through, or enlarge. The message disappears off the sides. The bottom line as a friend of my wife and me would say reads:
'pmi skip list. Do you want to select it anyway'
If possible post a screenprint. I suspect the full text would read: urpmi skip list. This is a list of files marked for skipping/non installation. Which application gives you that message?

What screen resolution are you running? i.e. 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768 etc.

You can find this out from the KDE Control Centre (configure your desktop)--> Peripherals--> Display.

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Old 03-12-2009, 06:10 PM   #24
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I hope it is alright to go this slow! I downloaded the first part of the kernel download. It was the kernel-latest that I got the message on. I have posted the screenshot. I have not done the openoffice yet either I don't think, I was hoping to do the nVidia driver first.
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Old 03-12-2009, 09:34 PM   #25
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From what I can see looking at your screenprint, your sources list is all messed up. You have the same entries 3 times. It shouldn't look like that at all. You need to flush those repositories and add them anew. This is not why your windows are misbehaving. That's the reason for the skip list message. There's little point in adding anything from your repository as it stands. If you are unsure about how to remove and then add a fresh list of repositories, you can use one of the links in my signature to assist you. Smarturpmi makes an easier job of removing the old and adding the new repositories and it will automatically download and install any available updates at the same time. See this thread http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ght=smarturpmi Jump down to post #42.

Whichever site you choose, don't forget to select the repository list for the correct version of Mandriva you are running i.e. 2007, 2008, 2009.

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Old 03-13-2009, 06:19 PM   #26
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Thank you once again. I have just followed the link to smarturpmi and easyurpmi. At first nothing changed until I copied in the line to remove everything first. Now I get a much faster response when I click on 'Add/Remove Software.' The misbehaving windows have not stopped, but there has been one change. Now when I click on 'update' I get a window with buttons. Can I ask you how many repositories should I have? And which ones? I do not really understand such terms as backports etc. or what the free or non-free items are about, and do not know if I need them or even if they might be dangerous! Before I had 20 or more, which I thought was excessive. I do not know how many there are now. The options have changed too, there is no longer an entry for kernel-latest!

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Old 03-13-2009, 06:29 PM   #27
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These are what you definitely need:

main release
contrib release
non-free release
main updates
contrib updates
non-free updates


These are handy to have because they provide restricted stuff not distributed by Mandriva for legal reasons:

plf-free release
plf-nonfree release


And these are optional, they provide updated packages not available at the time your last update:

main backports
contrib backports
non-free backports
plf-free backports
plf-nonfree backports


If you allowed the automatic update to go ahead, it's possible your kernel has been updated. Check this with uname -r and compare the output with the version you previously posted.
 
Old 03-14-2009, 07:31 AM   #28
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Thank you. I am having trouble logging in as root so that I can install the nVidia driver. I know what my username and password is, although I only need it if I log out and change sessions. I can also use a terminal and log on as su then enter the password, but this doesn't work when I log out of the desktop with Alt+Ctrl+F1. I am writing this using Puppy, which allows me to get into passwrd and shadow files on the mandy partition, but I am afraid of reaching the point of no return. I have tried to be consistent with passwords and usernames while installing linux, but so far none that I have tried have worked. One suggestion I read was to delete x from one of these files... etc. Do you think it would be safe for me to do or can you suggest another way around the problem please?
 
Old 03-14-2009, 08:19 AM   #29
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If you are able to use su chances are your system is set not to allow root login from outside of the desktop. Log back in. Start a konsole session. Switch to root using su. The file you need to edit is kdmrc. It is located in /usr/share/config/kdm. First of all be careful when editing this file, it would be a good idea to make a backup. You can do this while in that location with cp kdmrc kdmrc.bkup.

Now that's done, open the file and look for this section [X-*-Core].

Now look for this entry AllowRootLogin= if it says false change it to true then save and close the file.

Log out and test.
 
Old 03-14-2009, 10:27 AM   #30
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Sorry about all this, but I don't have a four year old child to help me! When I type in what I believe to be my root password, I get this.
Last login: Sat Mar 14 14:10:23 on tty1
-bash: alias:l -l: not found and then I get...
[root@localhost~]#
When I try to load the nVidia driver, I get permission denied.
 
  


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