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Old 05-26-2005, 08:38 PM   #1
death_au
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Unhappy why can't things be easy?


I've been learning my way around linux for a while now with Fedora Core 1, but the other day I got to play around with a computer running Lycoris desktop/LX 1.3, and I found so many things that I wish I had on Fedora...

For one, if you insert a disk, CD, USB key, etc, you can access it instantly. I hate messing around with mounting and unmounting things, like I have been in Fedora, and I'm sick of my CD Drive not ejecting becuase it won't unmount, because it's "busy". Even when I close all programs I can think of that would be using it... I know it's really bad, but there is now a bent paperclip sitting next to my computer.

Another thing is, why doesn't Fedora have a graphical package manager that supports all rpms, rather than those that come with Fedora? I want to be able to easily Install/uninstall/upgrade anything. And without needing to have internet access....

I guess my question is: Is there anything easier (and free)?
 
Old 05-26-2005, 08:47 PM   #2
win32sux
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maybe give mandriva a try: http://www.mandriva.com/

here's the ISOs on an Australian mirror: ftp://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/Ma...iso/10.2/i586/

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Old 05-26-2005, 08:57 PM   #3
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ubuntu does all that :P
 
Old 05-26-2005, 09:14 PM   #4
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First off, I would suggest Fedora Core 3. I have it on my desktop machine, and it recognizes the usbdisk, though I'm not sure about cds.

As for ejecting the CD, make sure you change directory to something that's not on the CD if you're on the command line(like by typing "cd /"), or if any of your terminals are in the cd directory (maybe the one you used to mount the cd?)

The cd can be mounted easily even as a user if you add a line like
Code:
/dev/hdc		/cd		auto		noauto,user		0 0
to the file "/etc/fstab". make sure you create the directory you want to mount to ("/cd" in this case).
Then all you have to type is
Code:
mount /cd
or
Code:
mount /dev/hdc
On the subject of a graphical package manager, there isn't a good one that I know of. You will need a way to get the rpms if you don't have internet access, but normally just double-clicking the files in the file browser will start the installation. If you have any trouble, make sure you run up2date at least once to install the GPG keys.
The best package manager for fedora in my opinion is yum. it's command line, but easy to use for updating/removing packages, and in some cases for installing them.
 
Old 05-26-2005, 10:59 PM   #5
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I agree as far as ubuntu goes i am using it on a nforce4 with a ultra withno trouble. ubuntu seems to be the most usrer frendly for me . i have tried 6 or 7 other distros and only konn or ubuntu seem like good starter choices(ive only been up 4 days).
 
Old 05-26-2005, 11:06 PM   #6
fancypiper
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Have you tried the usermount tool?

I can't seem to make my drives work like I want
# Managing drives
LNAG - Accessing my drives
Rute - Device Mounting - Automatic Mounts: fstab

# Red Hat & Fedora links
FedoraNEWS.ORG
The Fedora HOWTO explains the different software managers.
Maximum RPM
rpmfind
Easier software management: apt4rpm
ATrpms - installation instructions
Fedora Core 1 Tips and Tricks
Fedora Core 2 Tips and Tricks
Fedora Core 3 Tips and Tricks
apt, yum, and up2date repository settings (configuration files) for Fedora Core 3
# Handling NTFS
New Technology FileSystem (NTFS) HOWTOs
Linux NTFS project

Last edited by fancypiper; 05-26-2005 at 11:08 PM.
 
Old 05-27-2005, 12:04 AM   #7
rickh
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Your cd should certainly mount automatically, and to dismount it, you right click on the icon, and click 'eject.'

I use FC3 ... It does basically all those things ... Yum is easy ... not as good as APT, but certainly satisfactory

Debian does all those things as well ... I'm recommending it to my newbie friends as a solid, if slightly staid, distro ... The new one disk ISO internet installer is a piece of cake. And new-to-Linux people are better off with solid archetecture than bells and whistles.
 
Old 05-27-2005, 03:30 PM   #8
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I just wanted to say thanks to fancypiper for the post full of killer links, there are a few in there that I was unaware of.

Thanks a bunch

pjbii
 
Old 05-27-2005, 03:54 PM   #9
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/me blushes

You are welcome.
 
  


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