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Old 10-10-2013, 05:43 AM   #76
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I take issue with this, a little. I'll agree that Fedora isn't the smoothest way to learn how to use Linux and, therefore, might not be a recommendation for a person new to Linux.
However, I have found Fedora can be quick and does have the benefit of being very, very new. I'm not a current user, but I do appreciate the distro.
Well. I started with Slackware back in the year 2000 or so. Slackware is a great way to learn GNU/Linux. I have since tried about 20 distroes. Ubuntu/Mint and those ones would be a smooth way to learn GNU/Linux if you are new. You will not learn very much and quick, but you will have a smooth start.

For me, Fedora is by far the worst distro I tried. Just a recommendation to him as a new user, to not use Fedora. But in a response to you I would say Fedora is not a distro I would recommend to experienced users either. In fact, I would not recommend it to anyone. But in particular not to new users or experienced users. The whole system is too bundled.

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Old 10-10-2013, 07:32 AM   #77
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Don't worry about the 32 bit vs. 64. bit thing as few real benefits exist unless you're doing "heavy work" from what I've seen. But it is the "latest and greatest". I still use 32. have tried 64 and thought meh...
I'm not sure about if its 'latest and greatest', I've been using 64bit for years now.

Even a few years ago, 64bit did boot a little faster, and its a lot faster for some tasks that arent that 'heavy', like audio transcoding.

But as far as Ladycog goes (or for most other new users with 2GB of RAM) I would just get 32bit.

PECONET009, I've reported your post. If you want to make technically inaccurate posts, fine. If you dont like being corrected, fine. There is no need to get into name calling and attempted trolling.
 
Old 10-10-2013, 10:48 AM   #78
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Exclamation Hello "cascade9"..

PECONET009, I've reported your post. If you want to make technically inaccurate posts, fine. If you dont like being corrected, fine. There is no need to get into name calling and attempted trolling.[/QUOTE]

1) Inaccurate posts?
None, you need to read up more on the issue in hand (does 64bit come to your mind yet?)

2) Being corrected?
About what, your silly argument about your lack of knowledge about 64bit that you are trying to push down peoples throats? You need to get out more, and soon.

3) Name calling?
None what so ever, please list the names that "you refer" I have called you.

4)Trolling?
Not unless you want me to, but no I have not trolled.
Is this argument about you not being happy about me not addressing your post(s)? My..my, do have another cup of tea, strong one at that.
You seem up tight, you need to calm down a bit, go and have a walk around to clear your head.

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Old 10-10-2013, 10:59 AM   #79
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None, you need to read up more on the issue in hand (does 64bit come to your mind yet?)
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Originally Posted by PECONET009 View Post
If you have less than 4gb of ram then you will need to install/test a 32bit distro.
Indeed this is technically wrong, 64 bit OSes run fine on machines with less than 4GB of RAM, there is no need to use 32 bit with less than that.

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2) Being corrected?
About what, your silly argument about your lack of knowledge about 64bit that you are trying to push down peoples throats? You need to get out more, and soon.
I can't see a lack of knowledge here on cascade9's side, he has just corrected your factually wrong claim that there is a need for 32 bit on machines with less than 4GB of RAM.
Telling somone that he needs to get out more and comments like this:
Quote:
You are not that bright.
are indeed insulting and not something we want to see on LQ. Take this as an official warning.

Now, back on topic: Nowadays there are only one reasons not to go 64 bit on 64 bit capable hardware with a reasonable amount of RAM (in my eyes >=2GB): Hardware that has only 32 bit drivers available. Mostly comes down to some older printers and exotic USB gadgets. Anything else will just work fine with 64 bit OSes.
 
Old 10-10-2013, 11:36 AM   #80
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Question TobiSGD..You will need to look back on this post to see what is what here..

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Indeed this is technically wrong, 64 bit OSes run fine on machines with less than 4GB of RAM, there is no need to use 32 bit with less than that.

I can't see a lack of knowledge here on cascade9's side, he has just corrected your factually wrong claim that there is a need for 32 bit on machines with less than 4GB of RAM.
Telling somone that he needs to get out more and comments like this:are indeed insulting and not something we want to see on LQ. Take this as an official warning.

Now, back on topic: Nowadays there are only one reasons not to go 64 bit on 64 bit capable hardware with a reasonable amount of RAM (in my eyes >=2GB): Hardware that has only 32 bit drivers available. Mostly comes down to some older printers and exotic USB gadgets. Anything else will just work fine with 64 bit OSes.

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None, you need to read up more on the issue in hand (does 64bit come to your mind yet?)
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Originally Posted by PECONET009 View Post
If you have less than 4gb of ram then you will need to install/test a 32bit distro.
Indeed this is technically wrong, 64 bit OSes run fine on machines with less than 4GB of RAM, there is no need to use 32 bit with less than that.

Quote:
2) Being corrected?
About what, your silly argument about your lack of knowledge about 64bit that you are trying to push down peoples throats? You need to get out more, and soon.
I can't see a lack of knowledge here on cascade9's side, he has just corrected your factually wrong claim that there is a need for 32 bit on machines with less than 4GB of RAM.
Telling somone that he needs to get out more and comments like this:
Quote:
You are not that bright.
are indeed insulting and not something we want to see on LQ. Take this as an official warning.

Now, back on topic: Nowadays there are only one reasons not to go 64 bit on 64 bit capable hardware with a reasonable amount of RAM (in my eyes >=2GB): Hardware that has only 32 bit drivers available. Mostly comes down to some older printers and exotic USB gadgets. Anything else will just work fine with 64 bit OSes.

(Quote from Peconet009)<"You are not that bright.">(UN-Quote from Peconet009) is not an insult actually, nor is it name calling.
Please look back onto all of these posts to see WHO started what here, and then come back to me to say I am wrong. I will give you a hint here:

(Quote
Originally Posted by cascade9
I've said it once before, I'll keep saying it if you continue- You do not need 4GB to run 64bit. Un-Quote]

(Quote from Peconet009)
Maybe, but then ask yourself, why make 64bit systems to run on less than 4gb, why not keep to 32gb? (UN-Quote from Peconet009)

Umm.....I'm yet to see any distro that doesnt do video by defualt. Even if its just a console.

You probably mean 'play video files "out of the box"'. Many distros do have support for video formats 'out of the box', and its not hard to add the codecs if the distro doesnt have them.

(Quote from Peconet009)
Why contradict your own sentence? (UN-Quote from Peconet009)


Or you could use a nice, GPL/MIT/BSD licenced PDF reader from the repos of whatever distro you use.

(@ Ladycog- repos are 'repositories'. Most distros have a source for software called a repository, so you can get software easily and safely from a trusted soruce).

Getting 3rd party, proprietary and old software like foxit (last release for linux- April 21, 2009) is ignoring one of the advantages of linux to do things a harder, less secure way.

(Quote from Peconet009)
The big question you need to ask yourself is...."Why"?
Why..oh..why do you need to nit-pick on a post that is trying to help the original post in question?

Maybe you have accumulated your many posts by nit-picking other posts, it sounds like it to me from your stature.
So, instead of "nit-picking" post something informative and helpful, it just might help someone in need.
Thank you for your NON help from your post to mine.

Please, just stop your un-helpful posts, it is unethical. (UN-Quote

Originally Posted by cascade9
(Quote"I'll keep saying it if you continue.(UN-Quote

All I was doing was to help the Original Poster, NOT for "cascade9" to step in and say those words that would/could mean nothing to the original Poster.
Like I said, please read ALL of these posts (in this section) and then come back to me to say I am in the wrong.
How would you react if someone trolloped on your post in such away as "cascade9" did?

I will wait your outcome.

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Old 10-10-2013, 11:49 AM   #81
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"Which version of Linux is best for an absolute rookie?" any, here's some.
 
Old 10-10-2013, 11:52 AM   #82
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Please look back onto all of these posts to see WHO started what here, and then come back to me to say I am wrong. I will give you a hint here:
I have read all the posts of this thread from the very beginning. cascade9 did what was sensible:
- Correcting factual errors
- Pointing out that a software that was recommended is not maintained anymore
- Clarifying a possible cause for confusion

Quote:
"You are not that bright." is not an insult actually, nor is it name calling.
Calling someone "not that bright" does mean the same as "you are dumb", so it is an insult. You have been warned about this and I hope you act accordingly.

Now please get this back on topic, if you have to discuss this feel free to use the PM function or email me.
 
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Old 10-10-2013, 12:14 PM   #83
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Question TobiSGD..

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Originally Posted by TobiSGD View Post
I have read all the posts of this thread from the very beginning. cascade9 did what was sensible:
- Correcting factual errors
- Pointing out that a software that was recommended is not maintained anymore
- Clarifying a possible cause for confusion

Calling someone "not that bright" does mean the same as "you are dumb", so it is an insult. You have been warned about this and I hope you act accordingly.

Now please get this back on topic, if you have to discuss this feel free to use the PM function or email me.
Since this is All on here:
You are about as worse than he/she "cascade9" is.

My..my. This forum as I have just found out thanks to you and "cascade9" is about as useful as a pinch of salt and Lemon. That means useless and bitter if you must know.

Now to get back to some coding.

Your loss not mine.

Please delete my account on this site.
Thanks.
 
Old 10-10-2013, 12:53 PM   #84
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MG big baby he's not the best mod (in the world no offense) out of how many?

Edit\Add: not enough coding (or other) answers to be a big deal as if coding alone (most can learn) makes for smart? LL

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Old 10-11-2013, 12:49 AM   #85
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Smile What works for me..2

Hi to all.
Being a new person to Linux, as I previously said in post, here earlier on..Mepis 11, Ubuntu 12.04.LTS and LXDE. These distro's all work for me.
I do not have any technical skills when it comes to Linux, having tried other Distro's including Debian 7..all had issues for me, that I could not easily fix.
I just wanted something that works well and has all the functions required.
AS more experience is gained will use harder Distro's.

The above information is my opinion and it works for me.

Cheers

Biff
 
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Old 10-11-2013, 09:05 AM   #86
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I'm not sure I remember a post asking for distro recommendations going so far out of control before. Of course, I've only used this site for less than a year. I hope the OP has at least gleaned some good recommendations that fit his/her needs.

I want to add, since some people brought up Fedora, that I do not recommend Fedora for anybody as a regular desktop system. Also, while I have no doubts at all that TobiSGD is correct and a 64-bit OS will work fine on the OP's hardware, from my understanding there also isn't any reason not to try a 32-bit system. I say download both, from two or three different distributions, and take part of an off day just to play around, using LiveCD versions if possible to see whether they work well with your hardware. If you like what you see, install. Most new users to Linux go through a "distro hopping" phase, which some probably never quite leave. The great thing about Linux is you're sure to find something that works well for your needs, and if it doesn't you can probably find ways to modify a distro so that it does meet your needs. I continue to think Linux Mint is a great place to start -- with the Cinnamon or Mate desktops.

Best wishes!
 
Old 10-11-2013, 11:28 AM   #87
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I think that is a good conclusion and that this thread can probably be closed now or very soon.
 
Old 10-11-2013, 11:54 AM   #88
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Hm. I've never used Mint as I used to love Ubuntu 8.04, but Ubuntu has really moved away from my distro of choice. Mint seems pretty snazzy. I would like to try it out myself!

One thing though, is that Debian is nice because there is so much support for it- it is the parent of so many distros. You can use it as your own personal computer, and if you ever decide to get really nerdy with it, you can make excellent headless (no-GUI) servers with it (whereas I am under the impression Ubuntu and Mint are generally more focused on the end-user experience rather than server variants, despite Ubuntu's Server edition)

Strictly my opinion, and I must counter it with my current downloading of Mint for myself
 
Old 10-11-2013, 03:27 PM   #89
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I'm not sure I remember a post asking for distro recommendations going so far out of control before. Of course, I've only used this site for less than a year. I hope the OP has at least gleaned some good recommendations that fit his/her needs.

I want to add, since some people brought up Fedora, that I do not recommend Fedora for anybody as a regular desktop system. Also, while I have no doubts at all that TobiSGD is correct and a 64-bit OS will work fine on the OP's hardware, from my understanding there also isn't any reason not to try a 32-bit system. I say download both, from two or three different distributions, and take part of an off day just to play around, using LiveCD versions if possible to see whether they work well with your hardware. If you like what you see, install. Most new users to Linux go through a "distro hopping" phase, which some probably never quite leave. The great thing about Linux is you're sure to find something that works well for your needs, and if it doesn't you can probably find ways to modify a distro so that it does meet your needs. I continue to think Linux Mint is a great place to start -- with the Cinnamon or Mate desktops.

Best wishes!
There is simply no good reason to install 32 bit on 64 bit capable PCs, downloading and trying both is a waste of bandwidth and time.
 
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I think that is a good conclusion and that this thread can probably be closed now or very soon.
Let the mods do there job as they see fit. Regular members posting they think or believe a thread should be closed just says to me they, as individuals, should probably walk away from the thread rather than it being closed and let everyone else continue to use it.
 
  


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