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Old 08-08-2015, 06:18 AM   #1
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Question which unix system is better for phisical machine?


I have kali linux on my virtual machine and now I want to try Unix system on my phisical machine and I don't know which one is better? I think kali isn't the better one. how about Debian?
 
Old 08-08-2015, 08:30 AM   #2
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you need to specify what do you mean by better? How do you measure that? Is this about stability, gui, speed, or what?
 
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Old 08-08-2015, 08:48 AM   #3
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I have kali linux on my virtual machine and now I want to try Unix system on my phisical machine and I don't know which one is better? I think kali isn't the better one. how about Debian?
Slackware is considered the best UNIX-like Gnu/Linux. You can use Get Slackware Linux or LQ's Download Linux to get the ISO image.

If you happen to be using MS Windows then once you have selected and downloaded the ISO image you can use one of the 'MD5SUM' checkers below to verify a valid download. Then use 'Imgburn' at a low burn rate (setting of 4) to insure a valid burn on your hardware.
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M$Windows:
Windows Burn tutorial <- 'Nero' Live Video for the newbies who burn the iso instead of the image of the iso.
Imgburn <- 'ImgBurn is a lightweight CD / DVD / HD DVD / Blu-ray burning application that everyone should have in their toolkit!' + Freeware
-- MD5SUM:
M$Windows iso md5sum checking <- LQ Post on how too
md5sum.exe <- M$Win Application to perform md5sum checking.
winMd5Sum Portable <- FREE + Good for all M$ Windows
Hope this helps.
Have fun & enjoy!

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Old 08-08-2015, 08:55 AM   #4
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you need to specify what do you mean by better? How do you measure that? Is this about stability, gui, speed, or what?

I just want to learn Unix systems and I don't know which one would be good for me too study Unix. thing is I was going to install on my phisical machine Kali but somewhere I watched tutorial(I don't remember where) he was saying that to install Kali on the phisical machine is not a good idea. so i wrote question here.yes kali has the a great dial of tools but I want to gather everything myself. if you'll give me some choises, I would be very greatful, thanks in advance!

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Old 08-08-2015, 08:59 AM   #5
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Hi,

Welcome to LQ!
Slackware is considered the best UNIX-like Gnu/Linux. You can use Get Slackware Linux or LQ's Download Linux to get the ISO image.

If you happen to be using MS Windows then once you have selected and downloaded the ISO image you can use one of the 'MD5SUM' checkers below to verify a valid download. Then use 'Imgburn' at a low burn rate (setting of 4) to insure a valid burn on your hardware.
Hope this helps.
Have fun & enjoy!
Hi, thank you very much. somethings I don't understand here but most of them yes. can you tell me why is better choise Slackware? are u using it?

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Old 08-08-2015, 09:33 AM   #6
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choices.

I do not slack myself, but work with a LOT of machines and distros.
Slack seems very conservative, very old standard, very solid. There are factors in common with Debian Stable, and I approve of both whole heartedly. I use more cutting edge stuff, but these are excellent platforms to learn on and will perform well for a long time.
 
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Old 08-08-2015, 11:39 AM   #7
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Hi, thank you very much. somethings I don't understand here but most of them yes. can you tell me why is better choise Slackware? are u using it?
Yes, I have been using Slackware since Patrick released back in 1993. Slackware is very stable and you have a sensible platform to use along with easy configuration which you can get help from Slackware Doc Project or documentation on the Install ISO. Look at http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub...lackware-14.1/ text files for references. Look at my sig for other Slackware references.

LQ's Slackware forum is the official forum for Slackware. Members there are very helpful, especially when a new member is willing to help themselves.

Slackware is not a hold your hand distribution!

Hope this helps.
Have fun & enjoy!
 
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Old 08-08-2015, 12:00 PM   #8
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The way to learn is by doing.

Install a base system (command line environment) & start using the programs included in it to do as much as you can.
If you start with a GUI desktop you won't learn half as quickly.

I started out in 1999 using Slackware, but later went over to Debian based systems, so it doesn't matter too much which distro you choose to install, just use one of the major distros like Slackware, Debian, SuSE or RedHat.
 
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Old 08-08-2015, 12:04 PM   #9
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(..) now I want to try Unix system on my phisical machine and I don't know which one is better? I think kali isn't the better one. how about Debian?
Debian would be good (after all Kali Linux seems to be based on it), as could Fedora, SuSE, Ubuntu, Mint or any current maintained Linux distribution you fancy trying be. Note Linux isn't UNIX (as in the trademark) and neither is Linux Unix (as in the proprietary, commercially licensed OS). Linux is Unix-like (as in technical architecture and philosophical heritage) per definition. (And that definition isn't clear anyway.) So there's no "best" except the one you pick for your reasons. Try a few, pick one or two. Do stuff and learn. All that matters.
 
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Old 08-08-2015, 12:34 PM   #10
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Slackware, as mentioned above by others, is "the most like Unix System V" (your question is about Unix which is not the same thing as Linux but both are similar).

For some years I did software development and data base software on Sun Solaris machines. I migrated my home equipment to Slackware (actually dumped Win98 completely and installed Slackware in its place). As I worked mainly at home, I needed a machine similar to Solaris and I got that with Slackware; I don't remember what version it was (it came on CD-ROMs, though, not floppies), maybe 4?

I came from Unix (System 3 and System VR4) with many years of Unix experience and I found Slackware to be virtually identical -- all the utilities I was familiar with, all pretty much worked the same (a few differences here and there, but that's to be expected, they are different systems). I developed software for Solaris on my Slackware machines and ported in both directions with virtually no problems -- I was writing C, SQL and KornShell programs for Solaris on Slackware and, other than some compiler switches, everything went back and forth with ease.

I'm still using Slackware for all my computing needs and have no intention of switching to anything else. It is rock solid, dependable and runs like a dream. Slackware does not "brand" Linux software -- you will not see the Slackware logo on anything except the boot scree, you will have software that is as close to the developers intent as possible (you'd be amazed at how different Mozilla Firefox looks on Slackware than it does on many other distributions.

If your intent was actual Unix systems (rather than Linux systems), Solaris is pretty darn good. If, on the other hand, you want to learn Linux (and probably Unix along with it) Slackware is going to be your best bet. I've been working in Unix and Linux environments for over 35 years and Slackware is my "platform of choice" and that will not change -- other distributions I've tried have left me cold, just too much messed around with for my needs.

Hope this helps some.

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Old 08-08-2015, 01:02 PM   #11
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thanks everyone, I am grateful for your advices! thank you very much! I'll try few of them on my virtual machine that u told me, and then I'll take decesion. thanks all of u one more time!
 
Old 08-08-2015, 04:31 PM   #12
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you will not see the Slackware logo on anything except the boot scree, you will have software that is as close to the developers intent as possible (you'd be amazed at how different Mozilla Firefox looks on Slackware than it does on many other distributions.
I switched from Fedora to Slackware a couple of weeks ago and hadn't seen the differences between Firefox on Fedora or Slackware... Oh, no, when I just had installed Slackware I saw but just because there were extremely old 24.1.0 version of it from the box! After upgrade to 38.1.0 ESR I can say that Firefox looks like any other Firefox. Maybe I'm wrong but this is what I think about it.
 
  


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