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Old 11-24-2003, 09:24 PM   #1
steegs
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Which RPM for me


hey hey

the preformace of my machine sucks the big one. i have a geforce3 and an amd1800+ with 512MB of ddr333 and the screen savers are choppy. is there a tool that can tell me what fedora thinks all the bus(ide, fsb) and clock speeds are on my machine?

i think the preformance issue is partly due to the fact that i have the generic geforece drivers on my system. i am running fedora core 1 and found this site:

http://atrpms.physik.fu-berlin.de/di...thlon.rpm?info

Like every other RPM site there is a ton of listings and me being a newb dont know which one to pick, none the less how to install it once i have it. could someone help me out and educate my about all the acronyms i need to know in order to download the right rpm for me? i have the feeling that linux likes acronyms.

I also am getting the idea that there are depository of RPMs that you can have up2date point to in addition to the defaults. if this is true, are there any good ones that i should consider and to were should i look for instructions on how to add them?

thanks for the help
steegs
 
Old 11-24-2003, 11:18 PM   #2
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Quote:
i think the preformance issue is partly due to the fact that i have the generic geforece drivers on my system.
bingo, the linux generic nvidia driver (called nv) sucks SUPER hard....
with generic drivers, my nidia geforce4 64megs runs only a quater the speed of my super old ATI RAGE 128 16meg !!!

and about that site you posted a link to..... forget it.....
for nvidia drivers, the best place to go.. is.........
www.nvidia.com
luckily for you, nvidia is one of the most liinux friendly hardware company's

anyway, nvidia.com

then click the download drivers link at the top left of the page

then in the left box, click "Graphics Driver"
in the middle box click "GeForce and TNT2"
and in the left box, click "linux IA32"

after you have downloaded the driver.....

su
password
/sbin/init 3
(which will take you to command line mode)
cd to the location where u downloaded the nvidia driver
sh ./theNvidiaDriverName.run

click okay and i accept / whatever.

then when its finished, run
startx

now you need to edit your x config file to load the new drivers...

with your fave text editor load /etc/X11/XF86Config
(you may want to backup the file first)

look for the line
Load "dri"
delete it !
in the section where u just deleted look make sure there is a line that says
Load "glx"
if it doesnt exist, put the lin in yourself.

now look for the lone that says
driver "nv"
and change it to say
driver "nvidia"

you may also want to edit screen resolution and refresh rates to take advantage of the drivers higher resolution capabilities (read your monitors manua l for the refresh rates)

now, log out, and back in again, when X starts you should see the nvidia logo before your windows manager loads up... kaboom,,, enjoy the wonderfull world of linux gaming and openGL.
 
Old 11-25-2003, 12:36 AM   #3
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when im in line mode and i enter in the sh ./... command it pops up an Nvidia windows saying that i am missing ld and to make sure that i have binultis installed and if i do to make ld the path...or something to that effect.

ill poke around a bit, but please post if you know whats goin on.

thanks
steegs
 
Old 11-25-2003, 01:20 AM   #4
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right so I installed the standard development stuff (unchecked all the extra) to get binutils. dandy. i restart the process and this time Nvidia tells me that it needs to do something with my kernel and that it doesnt have the header files. ok, so i install the kernel development defaults and go at it one more time. now it throw back that it cannot complete the Nvidia keneral something or other.

im stuck and going to bed.
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Old 11-25-2003, 09:20 AM   #5
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Yeah, if the install program does not have the correct kernel modules for your kernel, it can compile them for you. make sure you have your kernel source installed, make sure you have development tools installed, (both with default exrta packages installed)

what dirtribution are you running ?
at command line type
uname -r
that will tell you your kernel version.

when i wrote that post i assumed you had kernel 2.4.somthing
is this true ?

anyway, whats the error message ????

did you answer yes when if asked to connect to nvidia ftp to download the correct files for you ? and if that failed (which it does for me) did you answer yes to "do u want me to compile drivers for you" like i did, that should work fine.

ive used these drivers and they have worked on 2.4.20-8 (redhat 9 kernel) and they work on the latest stabble kernel 2.4.22.
 
Old 11-25-2003, 11:07 AM   #6
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im on fedora core 1 and im fairly certain that its with kernel 2.4.22. (im at work and a newb otherwise id know). yeah i had it attempt the ftp download, and yes it did fail. then when it asked "do u want me to compile drivers for you" I said yes and that is when it failed. when i get home i will install the default extra packages from the dev group and see if that helps...probably will. ill post my outcomes when i get em.

thanks for your help qwijibow

steegs
 
Old 11-25-2003, 07:50 PM   #7
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if you could give the error messages, it should be easy to fix.
ive never some across any nvidia problems that were not fixed by installing dependency's.
 
Old 11-25-2003, 10:13 PM   #8
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I installed the dev tools and still no go. i searched a bit and found a thread where mishmash discribes how to install them. i used his where you set CC=gcc32. my card is workign well now except that i am getting errors on all the cool screen savers saying:

Xlib: extension "XFree86 -DRI" missing on display ":0.0"

probably getting this since one of the steps was to comment out load dri. is there anyway i can get x to use something besides dri?

thanks,
steegs
 
Old 11-26-2003, 09:26 AM   #9
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correct me if im wrong (and i often am but hey, im learning

ok... now im confused......
please talk me through EXACTLY what you did to install this driver ?

and...what distro are you suing, look on the main nvidia driver download screen, it lists a few distro versions in which the install will not work, and u neet to use the old install method. is that 1 or your distro's ?

anyway.. error messages error messages error messages..... lgive lots of them, they help no-end when it comes to solving problems

try using the following command to start x...
get into command line mode only....

if your defualt runlevel is 5 (and it will be unless u changed it)
su
password
/sbin/init 3

and start x with the command

startx > ~/output 1> output1 2> output2

then look in the files output1 output2 and output for any bad messages.
 
Old 11-26-2003, 02:02 PM   #10
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I used this process:

"Hi,

I had the same problem as Bobmeister and did what he suggested and it is working fine now.

Thanks Bobmeister!

Please note that the error messages I had found in the log file are the same as the ones described by FXRS.

The following procedure is the one I used for installing the NVIDIA driver and the one that NVIDIA recommends (except of course for the CC export in order to correct the CC mismatch error...).

1. Modify the /etc/inittab file to force booting in console mode (i.e. text mode, not Xserver). You only have to change the line

id:5:initdefault:

to this

id:3:initdefault:

2. Restart the computer. It will boot in text mode.

3. Login as root.

4. Move to the directory where the NVIDIA .run file was downloaded.

5. Run the following command to set the CC variable and thus avoid the CC mismatch error.

export CC=gcc32

6. Install the NVIDIA driver by running the following command. It should install correctly.

sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4496-pkg2.run

7. Move to the directory where the XF86Config file is located, i.e. the /etc/X11 directory.

8. Modify the XF86Config file by changing the line

Driver "nv"

for

Driver "nvidia"

in the "Device" section.

9. Modify the XF86Config file to remove or comment out (by adding the # at the beginning of each line) the lines

Load "GLcore" (did not found this line though...)
Load "dri"

in the "Module" section.

10. Make sure that the XF86Config file has the line

Load "glx"

in the "Module" section.

11. Modify the /etc/inittab file back to what it was, i.e. with the line

id:5:initdefault:

12. Reboot the computer by pressing Ctrl+Alt+Del.

Everything should be OK after this. For newbies, just run the game TUX racer, itf the NVIDIA driver was installed correctly, the game should display "very" smoothly...

Regards,

mishmash"

from this thread:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...=nvidia+fedora

I am running Fedora Core 1. and i belive that is all right( I look around a bit on nvidia's dl driver page but did not see any list of distributions that it wouldn't work with.)
 
Old 11-26-2003, 03:52 PM   #11
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and you're X server still crashes with a "no screens" error ???

looks like you did the install correctly.

did you remove mesa gl as surgested at the link u posted ?
 
Old 11-27-2003, 08:46 PM   #12
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rpm -e --nodeps XFree86-Mesa-libGL

that did it. i did not see that step as i just followed mishmash's instructs. thanks for pointing that out to me qwijibow, now i can look at all the predy screen savers.

thanks for the help and time,
steegs
 
  


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