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Old 10-18-2010, 11:44 AM   #16
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Very interesting and informative info:


As far as I understand, the fast distributions depend on customization of installation and services. As I dont need any kind of server thing (webserver, ftp, database) so if I am able to disable or remove them then it will make faster my distribution.
Now that is challenge how to do that: I am not much concern about ease of use, I can spend time to learn and implement if it worth to get performance.
I just need two things: browser for surfing news and currency forums and some time they had videos,so flash player and pdf reader.
And a wine application running for Metatrader application which is only for windows.

One more thing to ask you guys: It is not important as for that I can use some windows based desktop but if I can get that too I will be completely free man of windows slavery:

Some time work from home, I have to use cisco vpn client and then remote desktop to my office computer which is running windows xp.
Can I run cisco vpn on my linux machine and run remote desktop to connect to my office?
Thanks again for all of your time and guidance. I appreciate that:
 
Old 10-18-2010, 12:18 PM   #17
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As far as I understand, the fast distributions depend on customization of installation and services. As I dont need any kind of server thing (webserver, ftp, database) so if I am able to disable or remove them then it will make faster my distribution.
Under gnu/linux distributions you can disable these daemons anytime. But it appears that the most conservative install defaults are found in Slackware and Arch. However, if you must go for Slackware, with the machine you have, go for Slackware v. 12.2 and install 'Fluxbox' for DE. Don't install version 13, there is too much cholesterol in this version.

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Now that is challenge how to do that: I am not much concern about ease of use, I can spend time to learn and implement if it worth to get performance.
You are in a good position to learn Slackware right away.

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I just need two things: browser for surfing news and currency forums and some time they had videos,so flash player and pdf reader.
Always available in Firefox, Icecat or Seamonkey.
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And a wine application running for Metatrader application which is only for windows.
The wine version for Slackware 12.2 is stable.
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One more thing to ask you guys: It is not important as for that I can use some windows based desktop but if I can get that too I will be completely free man of windows slavery:
Windows based applications run only for windows. But there are plenty (even better) substitutes within Gnu/Linux. At the start, in many cases, I was dependent on Wine as I still had in me that Windows mentality. But sooner, with a little googling and tinkering I found out that I don't even needed wine at all with the affluence of free software applications.

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Some time work from home, I have to use cisco vpn client and then remote desktop to my office computer which is running windows xp.
Can I run cisco vpn on my linux machine and run remote desktop to connect to my office?
Yes. Networking is what Gnu/Linux makes the best choice.

Hope it helps.

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Old 10-18-2010, 02:13 PM   #18
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Hi,

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However, if you must go for Slackware, with the machine you have, go for Slackware v. 12.2 and install 'Fluxbox' for DE. Don't install version 13, there is too much cholesterol in this version.
You care to expand on the above statement(s)? Why not 13.0 or 13.1? What do you mean by "Don't install version 13, there is too much cholesterol in this version."?

 
Old 10-20-2010, 04:52 PM   #19
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Under gnu/linux distributions you can disable these daemons anytime. But it appears that the most conservative install defaults are found in Slackware and Arch. However, if you must go for Slackware, with the machine you have, go for Slackware v. 12.2 and install 'Fluxbox' for DE. Don't install version 13, there is too much cholesterol in this version.......
Hope it helps.
Sorry I am still sending you basic question.. but I am coming from window-based mentatilty.. will take some time to get rid of this.. lol:
my question is where can i get Slackware v. 12.2 (if DVD then it is best).
On main site of Slackware i could not find old versions or archive, on google i found a place who had this but dvd version seems to be corrupted.. as it is only 131 mb where I think it should be around 4gb.
So any link to get good and reliable code for Slackware v. 12.2 ?
Thanks.
 
Old 10-20-2010, 08:04 PM   #20
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Hi,

Look at: http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/

Why roll back to 12.2?

 
Old 10-20-2010, 09:18 PM   #21
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All linux disto cores are basically made from the same parts. They are generic and have a lot of over stuffed items in them to be usable for a wide array of users hardware. To make it fast you would need to build your OS exactly for your hardware and your use. Linux from Scratch may help or more of a pre-made solution may be to use Gentoo. You build your system exactly for your computer and use.

Second is the Gui or window manager. It can have a huge effect on the user experience. They tend to offer lightweight and fast ones. Eye candy can be quite slow. Newer Gnome and KDE are not fast at all on older systems.


Another deal is hardened. You can make your system more secure by default. Most distros are not secure by default. Add in Best Practices and you get an up to day pretty secure system. Not NSA secure however.

Linux is not really considered a "fast" OS as such. Top of that your computer is kind of pokey. You may wish to upgrade to a faster system.

It may be that you could benefit from using real time kernel options and maybe a fail over solution. A fail over is another computer that normally mirrors what you are doing. When system one fails, system two powers up fully to be the main computer.


No computer that is connected to the internet is safe. As stated above a live cd is immune to being hacked that I know of but that doesn't mean your data is secure.
 
Old 10-21-2010, 12:17 AM   #22
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I do agree with a lot of what was stated but in the end the ONLY one that can decide which distro works the best will be YOU.I ran through countless distros until I found the version that suited my needs which is Mint 9 Isadora with a few tweaks for converting and burning DVDs.I would advise you to purchase some DVD RWs and be prepared to spend some time deciding on a new system for yourself.I was also tired of constantly worrying about viruses etc. with microslop and then when I had to purchase new software for 5 computers I felt it was about time to see what else was available.

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Old 10-21-2010, 12:53 AM   #23
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I do agree with a lot of what was stated but in the end the ONLY one that can decide which distro works the best will be YOU.I ran through countless distros until I found the version that suited my needs which is Mint 9 Isadora with a few tweaks for converting and burning DVDs.I would advise you to purchase some DVD RWs and be prepared to spend some time deciding on a new system for yourself.I was also tired of constantly worrying about viruses etc. with microslop and then when I had to purchase new software for 5 computers I felt it was about time to see what else was available.
Very good idea. I will do that, will install diff. distributions and will compare myself and will run wine and some software which i need and will see how it works. Also re-writeable dvds is also very good.
Thanks every body soon i will be back about my discoveries and definately wil more questions.
Thanks for every body and have nice days and nights.
 
Old 10-21-2010, 02:12 PM   #24
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So any link to get good and reliable code for Slackware v. 12.2 ?
Thanks.
That's indeed the problem because currently Slackware 12.2 download is rare to find. Try this torrent. Although free software retailers can still ship you a dvd at minimal cost.

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You care to expand on the above statement(s)? Why not 13.0 or 13.1? What do you mean by "Don't install version 13, there is too much cholesterol in this version."?
Onebuck: The OP only has 1Gig ram and he is looking a way to speed it up; Dell D600 admittedly does not have the high-end specs for the current version of Kde 4. I don't want to trigger a flame war against KDE but I have read many disappointed slackers under v.13. The latest Kde version has so much eye-candies and useless fats as to slow it down. Kde 3 under Slackware 12 is still faster, and the OP is mentioning a need for speed. And personally, I don't like Kde because of its K-nuisance K-naming K-conventions that K-kills my K-sanity: a thing that does not help a new linux user. I am a true Slackware user/lover but my taste tells me that Gnome and Xfce are a more helpful DEs that, under Slackware 13, are not easily available out of the box to a new linux user like the OP here. Anyway, OP can always try v.13 for comparison.

Hope it helps.
 
Old 10-21-2010, 02:38 PM   #25
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@ alakhan

Arch linux -- it is i686 optimized.

Unlike other distros, you start with a basic system and gradually build from there.

No compiling necessary when installing Arch and/or adding software.

Arch has an excellent website with documentations and wikis to help configure just about everything including wireless cards.

http://archlinux.org

- Cheers

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Old 10-22-2010, 09:17 AM   #26
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Hi,

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That's indeed the problem because currently Slackware 12.2 download is rare to find. Try this torrent. Although free software retailers can still ship you a dvd at minimal cost.
You can get most at http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/ so there is slackware-12.2-iso/.


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Onebuck: The OP only has 1Gig ram and he is looking a way to speed it up; Dell D600 admittedly does not have the high-end specs for the current version of Kde 4. I don't want to trigger a flame war against KDE but I have read many disappointed slackers under v.13. The latest Kde version has so much eye-candies and useless fats as to slow it down. Kde 3 under Slackware 12 is still faster, and the OP is mentioning a need for speed. And personally, I don't like Kde because of its K-nuisance K-naming K-conventions that K-kills my K-sanity: a thing that does not help a new linux user. I am a true Slackware user/lover but my taste tells me that Gnome and Xfce are a more helpful DEs that, under Slackware 13, are not easily available out of the box to a new linux user like the OP here. Anyway, OP can always try v.13 for comparison.

Hope it helps.
Nothing saying you can't use something like Xfce or lighter for a desktop. Rolling back to slackware-12.2-iso/
will still get you KDE if desired but not the current KDE. You do not have to use that environment. A lighter desktop or evironment would indeed speed things up.

As a user of Slackware 13.1 you can select the desktop or environment. The choice is yours during the install setup to make or to select after the install via rerun of the original install scripts by running 'pkgtool'.

You could use xwmconfig;

Quote:
excerpt from 'man xwmconfig';

NAME
xwmconfig - choose a default window manager for X.

SYNOPSIS
xwmconfig

DESCRIPTION
xwmconfig provides a menu of the window managers available on the machine so
that you may choose one of them to use when X is started with "startx".

When run by root, it sets the symbolic link /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc, which
selected the default system-wide window manager to use for X, and also cre-
ates a /root/.xinitrc file with the same window manager selected (perhaps
suitable to move into /etc/skel/).

When run by a non-root user, xwmconfig writes out a $HOME/.xinitrc file,
allowing the user to choose their own default window manager (possibly over-
riding the one chosen as a system default).
When the 'xwmconfig' runs you have several to make a selection from. This is the same command that is available on Slackware 12.2, 13.0, & 13.1. You as a user have choices that will allow the choice of environment during the install or after via the above commands.

I do agree the OP system would benefit if more memory can be added.

 
  


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