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Old 02-22-2013, 01:16 PM   #1
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which is the latest stable linux distro to use on a USB stick?


I've tried ubuntu 12.1 and I can't get it to connect to the internet, whether I run it from the USB device or install it. It will access the router and I've reset that successfully but I can't download any programs or use firefox.
I like ubuntu and have used it on a different PC but that was 10.1 as I recall.
Any ideas what the problem may be or which distro to try next?
Thanks,
Ron
 
Old 02-22-2013, 01:19 PM   #2
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wireless issue?
have a look at unetbootin: it supports a LOT of distro, you can install automatically on an USB.
 
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:56 PM   #3
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Thanks for your prompt reply.
I don't think it's a wireless issue as windoze works fine on this laptop and it's on this that I downloaded the distro and installer.

It was unetbootin that I used to get the ubuntu 12.1 distro.

I'll remove the existing distro and try something else this evening but it's such a timewaster downloading an ISO only to find out there are problems with it. (Or my laptop, it's a Dell Latitude 810 using XP Pro.)

Ron
 
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just because the hardware works in the MS world does not mean it will work in linux. the drivers are not the same. from your liveCD/DVD/USB run lspci and copy/paste here along with possibly lshw, we dont need the entire report for lshw just the section pertaining to your wifi device.
 
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:57 PM   #5
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It will access the router and I've reset that successfully but I can't download any programs or use firefox.
Sounds like a DNS issue, not a wireless issue.

Can you ping www.google.com?
How about 74.125.225.198
 
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Old 02-22-2013, 06:41 PM   #6
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" It will access the router and I've reset that successfully but I can't download any programs or use firefox. "

Use dig or nslookup command also for www.google.com.
 
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Old 02-23-2013, 03:21 PM   #7
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"from your liveCD/DVD/USB run lspci and copy/paste here along with possibly lshw, we dont need the entire report for lshw just the section pertaining to your wifi device."

Have run both lspci and lshw and got the listings but unfortunately I don't know how to copy them to put in a text editor. I'm still working on that.

I can ping google and go to 74.125.225.198 which gets me into google and once there I can search the web and go to google related pages like google earth and also get get images from google. I can't get to anywhere like Ebay though.

dig and nslookup work to get to google also.

Ubuntu is installed now but I would like to get rid of it as I downloaded a SUSE iso want to try that instead.

Thanks for the help so far.
Regards.
Ron
 
Old 02-23-2013, 05:50 PM   #8
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that definately sounds like a DNS issue.

Try this

Open a shell.
type

sudo echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" << /etc/resolv.conf

see if that makes a difference.
 
Old 02-24-2013, 12:14 PM   #9
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If dig and nslookup work then we might assume a few issues.

One is how your firefox settings are in the preferences/networking.

Another is any global proxy settings.

Another is the ISP.

dig or nslookup would normally prove that the system can access some remote ip to gain the name to ip for any web site. This should prove that gateway and ip and route are all OK. Could be local dns server or cache causing this in corporate issue.

I have seen one location where only a few sites could be accessed. For some reason a business class dsl connection to ATT did not let Firefox go to all sites. Using Chrome browser fixed that issue. I even tried the fix agent string.
 
Old 02-24-2013, 12:44 PM   #10
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that definately sounds like a DNS issue.

Try this

Open a shell.
type

sudo echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" << /etc/resolv.conf

see if that makes a difference.
Well it did make a difference but not for the better!
Now I can't ping google anymore, I can still access google when using Firefox and get to google earth etc. but nothing else like Ebay.
What is so special about google and its associates anyway?

How can I uninstall or remove the ubuntu 12.?? that is installed on the hard drive?
I don't like it as much as the earlier versions anyway. Removing it would give me more freedom to try another distro from a USB stick. ( The ubuntu takes over when I try to use a distro on the stick at the moment.)
Thanks for your continued help guys.
Ron
 
Old 02-24-2013, 07:20 PM   #11
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"I can still access google when using Firefox and get to google earth etc. but nothing else like Ebay." Either you have cached pages or your ISP is not allowing the agent string in firefox.

You don't remove linux as such. You use other ways to remove it like delete partitions or in most simple cases copy over the install. I don't exactly know how you got this OS on the flash so we'd need to know more about that.

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"I can still access google when using Firefox and get to google earth etc. but nothing else like Ebay." Either you have cached pages or your ISP is not allowing the agent string in firefox.

You don't remove linux as such. You use other ways to remove it like delete partitions or in most simple cases copy over the install. I don't exactly know how you got this OS on the flash so we'd need to know more about that.
 
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Old 02-25-2013, 02:37 PM   #12
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"I can still access google when using Firefox and get to google earth etc. but nothing else like Ebay." Either you have cached pages or your ISP is not allowing the agent string in firefox.

You don't remove linux as such. You use other ways to remove it like delete partitions or in most simple cases copy over the install. I don't exactly know how you got this OS on the flash so we'd need to know more about that.

---------- Post added 02-24-13 at 07:20 PM ----------

"I can still access google when using Firefox and get to google earth etc. but nothing else like Ebay." Either you have cached pages or your ISP is not allowing the agent string in firefox.

You don't remove linux as such. You use other ways to remove it like delete partitions or in most simple cases copy over the install. I don't exactly know how you got this OS on the flash so we'd need to know more about that.
Yesterday, I decided to remove the Linux partition as I was getting desperate/impatient, this was BEFORE I read your post Jethro and the result was catastrophic!
Now I can't boot up the laptop at all! All I get is "Error no such partition grub rescue>"

However on a 2GB memory stick I have the following items that I downloaded with Windows on the laptop.

openSUSE-12.1-livecd-kde-read-only.x86_64-2.8.0
puppy_slacko_5.4.sfs
ISO to USB
ldlinux.sys
config.isoclient
boot
So, perhaps all is not lost.

Just in passing, I am writing this on a Linux desktop PC using Firefox but I would like to get the laptop working for portability.

Thanks for your patience with an inpatient newbie.
 
Old 02-26-2013, 02:15 PM   #13
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Well, after corrupting the MBR I searched the forums and learnt that I should recover windows first, which I did using an old XPhome disk. Now I can access the Web without problems. The old XP Pro must have been the culprit.
So I can now get back to finding the right Distro.

Thanks for all the input to my laptop problem, your help and support have been invaluable.

Ron
 
  


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