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Old 11-14-2005, 10:59 PM   #1
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Which GNU Make????


Hello,
Searched for GNU Make on the www.gnu.org website and came up with quite a few "GNU Make" sources. In fact, it is bewildering as to which to use. I am attempting to compile Octave instead of getting Matlab. It is a nice setup with a ./configure setup, but I need GNU Make, gcc++, and libstdc++ set up on my computer.

I would like to get a good opensource or free software source on all three if possible. I am using Suse 10.0 on a HP Pavilion zv6000 with an AMD 64 bit Athlon. I would appreciate your inputs.

Best regards,
MunichTexan
 
Old 11-15-2005, 02:24 AM   #2
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I can't help but wonder whether you don't already have everything you need installed (or installable from the SuSE disks/online repositories). What does "make --version" output? Or "gcc --version"? The package management system in SuSE (yast I think although I've never used it) should allow you to install these packages if they're not already. Just look for gcc and make (or possibly (though less likely) gmake).
 
Old 11-15-2005, 08:26 AM   #3
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I don't if this is any help. I am using Qt3 which requires the g++ compiler, libstdc++5 and make.
 
Old 11-15-2005, 09:01 AM   #4
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Re: Which GNU Make????

linux with no gcc and libstdc++? no make? woah.

definately search for that stuf with YAST instead of downloading sources.

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Originally posted by munichtexan
Hello,
Searched for GNU Make on the www.gnu.org website and came up with quite a few "GNU Make" sources. In fact, it is bewildering as to which to use. I am attempting to compile Octave instead of getting Matlab. It is a nice setup with a ./configure setup, but I need GNU Make, gcc++, and libstdc++ set up on my computer.

I would like to get a good opensource or free software source on all three if possible. I am using Suse 10.0 on a HP Pavilion zv6000 with an AMD 64 bit Athlon. I would appreciate your inputs.

Best regards,
MunichTexan
 
Old 11-15-2005, 09:43 AM   #5
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check out gentoo-amd64. It runs much cleaner and faster than suse, and portage takes care of all of that stuff for you (installing/maintaining apps)

 
Old 11-15-2005, 10:46 AM   #6
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I had downloaded OpenSuse 10.0 and have it burned on DVD and would have thought that I did have Gnu Make and gcc already setup. I did the -version and Yast both and command was not found. I downloaded.

GNU Make 3.80

last night and it indicates -version sees it. But it does not see a gcc. The GNU Make is not yet set up in $Path so my belief is that there is no gcc on the system.

I will go ahead and look at my DVD and see if I have a gcc there.

Best regards,
Munichtexan
 
Old 11-15-2005, 11:32 AM   #7
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As stated by nhs , all this stuff is included in the SUSE distro, don't try to compile it yourself, it's a real mess and it would take a whole tutorial to explain.

Open Yast, go to the software manager and in the dropdown menu select to display packages by context. There's a part called "development" where you can select make and the needed stuff. All the dependencies will be resolved for you by Yast.

You can also avoid bothering about compiling Octave yourself: IT's also there!
Just enter 'octave' into the search widget and select it when it appears.

If it happens that none of the above software is in your install media (i.e. if you got a LiveCD or the burned and ISO of the Open Source version of SUSE), you will need to configure YAST to retrieve the packages from a server.

To do this follow these instructions: Novell Cool Solutions.
And if you want extra stuff such as Java and more, here's a reference page with lot's of YAST mirrors with tons of software:
More repositories

If you have any question regarding the use of YAST just ask.

P.D.: I would recommend installing all your software using Yast, except in cases when it's not there or when you explicitly need a non-official version. Learning the use of this tool, YAST, will save you a lot of headache and also empower you to do many difficult tasks in record time (such as setting up a webserver).

PD2: If you will try another powerful mathematic framework try Mathlab (also in the official repositories). It's a very nice tool too, created by INRIA, France, it has a graphical interface and is able to do dinamic system simulation.
 
Old 11-15-2005, 12:05 PM   #8
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Runlevel0, thanks.

I went to Yast and found gcc++ and gcc to start with. Attempted to access though Yast and recieved the following error: ( I have a DVD since I am running on a 64 bit version of Suse. This is the only format available for the 64 bit download." Any ideas? This is the same DVD that I installed OpenSuse 10.0 Linux 64 with.

Munichtexan

Insert
"SUSE Linux Version 10.0 CD 1"
cd:///;devices=/dev/hdc
ERROR(InstSrc:E_no_instsrc_on_media)[/media.1/media]
 
Old 11-15-2005, 12:50 PM   #9
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Ups. This seems to be an error caused by a wrong title on the DVD.

Just go to the Media sources configuration part and try to set your current DVD as an install medium.
 
Old 11-15-2005, 12:55 PM   #10
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Ok, dummy question. I have K3B, CD player etc installed. But all I want to do is look at the files contained in the iso on my burned DVD. I burned it originally with Nero 6.0 on the windows partition of my computer. I looked through Yast but I did not seem to find anything that would just look at the DVD. I would think Yast could do this, maybe I am mistaken. It has been a few years since working on linux, but I remember a format for reading the /dev/hdc device directly if this is what I need to do.

But I would like to be able to look at the DVD in the media section of my computer setup. The partitions for windows and linux are both in this section under KDE.

Anyway, I used Yast to look up gcc and it told me it did not see it, but this was after the first error indicated above. I wanted to peruse the iso file to verify if it was in the iso file on my DVD or if it has to do to the fact that Yast is asking for CD1. Any help would be appreciated.

Best regards,
MunichTexan
 
Old 11-15-2005, 01:03 PM   #11
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Ok, dummy question. I have K3B, CD player etc installed. But all I want to do is look at the files contained in the iso on my burned DVD. I burned it originally with Nero 6.0 on the windows partition of my computer. I looked through Yast but I did not seem to find anything that would just look at the DVD. I would think Yast could do this, maybe I am mistaken. It has been a few years since working on linux, but I remember a format for reading the /dev/hdc device directly if this is what I need to do.

But I would like to be able to look at the DVD in the media section of my computer setup. The partitions for windows and linux are both in this section under KDE.

Anyway, I used Yast to look up gcc and it told me it did not see it, but this was after the first error indicated above. I wanted to peruse the iso file to verify if it was in the iso file on my DVD or if it has to do to the fact that Yast is asking for CD1. Any help would be appreciated.

Under software I did a media check and came up with a md5sum check error. But during burn I did not include the "pad" option. I did not find under Yast anything else on media except install source and it appears that YAST sees the DVD as a Suse 10.0_64 install media (???)

Best regards,
MunichTexan
 
Old 11-15-2005, 01:07 PM   #12
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To access the DVD w/o Yast you can do tow things:

Try to access it directly using your file browser (Konqueror or Nautilus), there is also a "devices " tab in the side bar (F9).

Another way is to mount the device:

Code:
mount -t auto -o rw /dev/hdc /mnt/dvdrom
The latter could need root permissions.
 
Old 11-15-2005, 01:22 PM   #13
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Runlevel0

Could you expand on what you mean by the media portion? I have reviewed through the various icons, etc. in Yast and have not found what I think you are referring to. I checked and the DVD shows up under my computer media and when i checked the index gcc-c++-4.02_20050901-3.x86_64.rpm is on the DVD. Yast does not see it when I clk on gcc-c++ and try to download from the DVD.

Munichtexan
 
Old 11-15-2005, 02:19 PM   #14
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Quote:
Originally posted by munichtexan
Runlevel0

Could you expand on what you mean by the media portion? I have reviewed through the various icons, etc. in Yast and have not found what I think you are referring to. I checked and the DVD shows up under my computer media and when i checked the index gcc-c++-4.02_20050901-3.x86_64.rpm is on the DVD. Yast does not see it when I clk on gcc-c++ and try to download from the DVD.

Munichtexan
Sorry for being so fuzzy, but I was unable to recall how the YAST interface looked. It's 3 years since I jumped to Gentoo, but here it is:

Code:
Yast > Software -> Installation Source > Add
When you click on the "Add" option a widget will appear. It has a dropdown where you can choose the kind of media you want to add.
You could use that you have this open and add some URLs from the mirror list.
 
Old 11-15-2005, 05:04 PM   #15
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Thanks,
I tried a couple of mirror sites:

mirrors.kernel.org/suse/x86_64/10.0/SUSE-Linux10.0-GM-Extra/
&
mirror.mcs.anl/gov/pub/suse/i386/9.2/

The first one did not contain Octave or mathlab. The second one contained Octave but failed to have a 64 bit library required (Just thought I would try to see about a 32 bit running on my computer)

One other thing, I had to click on the "zzz all" on the bottom of the program directory on left side to activate mirror.

If anyone knows a mirror site that has the 64 bit Octave or mathlab version available for download, I would appreciate it.

MunichTexan
 
  


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