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Old 12-12-2013, 10:31 PM   #16
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Unless I am grossly misinterpreting, this is the problem:
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I just want to know that if their is an Linux Operating System that is just like Windows 7. So you don't have to purchase it.
The desire for a free operating system so one does not need to spend money is the wrong reason to use any open source system.

Caustic reply, but true. "Free" operating systems do not exist so Windows and Mac users can save money. They have a higher purpose.
 
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Old 12-13-2013, 12:41 AM   #17
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I think taking a little bit gentler approach to questions like the one posed by the OP would be in everyone's best interest. It would be more genuinely helpful to the OP, and would show Linux users and the LQ community in a better light. People who are exploring the idea of using Linux for the first time are quite likely to arrive here with a lack of clear understanding about Linux, or with confused or mistaken notions about it.

Saving money is not an uncommon motivation for people considering a switch to Linux, and there is no good reason to attack a potential new Linux user or heap scorn and derision on him because of it. Neither is someone's ignorance or misguided notions about Linux a reason to adopt an attitude of snobbish pedantry toward him when responding.

This is the Linux - Newbie forum, so questions like the OP's shouldn't seem surprising or out of place here. I would suggest that if a Linux user can't relax and say something helpful, educational, and friendly in response, everyone would be better served if he didn't respond at all.
 
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Old 12-13-2013, 02:42 AM   #18
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Whats a good OS that is like Windows 7?
Zorin OS is a lot like Microsoft Windows-
http://zorin-os.com/

At least a few of my associates think Zorin OS is simular to Windows since I introduced them to Linux. (recently)

It's Debian and Ubuntu based-
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=zorin

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Old 12-13-2013, 03:53 AM   #19
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I think taking a little bit gentler approach to questions like the one posed by the OP would be in everyone's best interest.
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and there is no good reason to attack a potential new Linux user or heap scorn and derision on him
Honesty is hardly scorn and derision. I pointed out a problem with the OP's motivation. Would adding a smile icon have made it gentle?

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People who are exploring the idea of using Linux for the first time are quite likely to arrive here with a lack of clear understanding about Linux, or with confused or mistaken notions about it.
And often they are better served with honesty, even if it is cold, than sugar-coated answers intended to gently nudge them in the right direction. Especially if their notions are way off the mark.

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Saving money is not an uncommon motivation for people considering a switch to Linux,
In such cases, it is imperative that they learn what free software is and is not. Otherwise, they could quickly join the brigade of, "Free software is an idealistic, but inconvenient notion in the real world. An OS should work the way I want it to without any work on my part. This is 2013 after all!" The quicker they learn what free software is, the better. I apologise for not including a smile icon.

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I would suggest that if a Linux user can't relax and say something helpful, educational, and friendly in response, everyone would be better served if he didn't respond at all.
An answer does not need to be friendly, warm or cheerful to be helpful.

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Old 12-13-2013, 03:53 AM   #20
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I think taking a little bit gentler approach to questions like the one posed by the OP would be in everyone's best interest. It would be more genuinely helpful to the OP, and would show Linux users and the LQ community in a better light. People who are exploring the idea of using Linux for the first time are quite likely to arrive here with a lack of clear understanding about Linux, or with confused or mistaken notions about it.

Saving money is not an uncommon motivation for people considering a switch to Linux, and there is no good reason to attack a potential new Linux user or heap scorn and derision on him because of it. Neither is someone's ignorance or misguided notions about Linux a reason to adopt an attitude of snobbish pedantry toward him when responding.

This is the Linux - Newbie forum, so questions like the OP's shouldn't seem surprising or out of place here. I would suggest that if a Linux user can't relax and say something helpful, educational, and friendly in response, everyone would be better served if he didn't respond at all.
If he phrased the question as:

I'm a long time Windows user and am looking for a way out. I google'd good Linux distros for newbies and all the interfaces were too unfamiliar. What can you recommend that keeps a Windows like interface but is easy to install and maintain?

This showed he cares enough to do a bit a research and shows that he at least understands that there are difference between the two. I want a distro that's exactly like Windows 7 will lead to the inevitable I down loaded this tar from a website and double clicked it and it didn't do anything. These conversations always end in dislike on both sides.
 
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Old 12-13-2013, 09:01 AM   #21
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If he phrased the question as:

I'm a long time Windows user and am looking for a way out. I google'd good Linux distros for newbies and all the interfaces were too unfamiliar. What can you recommend that keeps a Windows like interface but is easy to install and maintain?

This showed he cares enough to do a bit a research and shows that he at least understands that there are difference between the two. I want a distro that's exactly like Windows 7 will lead to the inevitable I down loaded this tar from a website and double clicked it and it didn't do anything. These conversations always end in dislike on both sides.
also it is a bad question because we are assuming that s/he meant cosmetically like windows-7 (like with a start button, my computer, task bar)...
but then the functionality described above would still be different (like going to a website to download software rather than going thru a software manager to help download dependancies automatically).
 
Old 12-13-2013, 10:46 AM   #22
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Dear peanutbutter,

Since your question is not specific, like which feature of windows 7 you like. What you know about linux or which linux distribution you have tried. Especially why you just want something to be like windows 7,
it can not be said which one is actually better for you.
 
Old 12-17-2013, 07:38 AM   #23
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Originally Posted by Tinkster View Post
@peanutbutter: offensive language really isn't appreciated, not to speak of the fact that that
outburst of yours was completely unwarranted.


Cheers,
Tink

Hi,

I must say that if @peanutbutter's thank you post was offensive, then the level of sensitivity is much higher than I would have expected in a Newbie forum.
@peanutbutter's original post did lack information. Nevertheless, I would have thought, that since the posting was to a Linux forum, then it would not be too great a leap to divine that the "OS" he was looking for was a Linux one. Some responders did see this, but others seem to have missed it.


Sincere regards,

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Old 12-17-2013, 08:47 AM   #24
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I have agree with Z038, that we might be a little more accommodating with this kind of questions. Unless we want the end up with people thinking LQ is only populated with zealots.
On the other hand I have sometimes trouble not to get grumpy when I see for the umpteen time a question like "solve my problem and I'm to lazy to do anything myself". Okay, that's maybe a little over the top

We could have just pointed the OP to ReactOS if he just wanted a cheap windows replacement.
 
Old 12-17-2013, 11:17 AM   #25
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Hi,

I must say that if @peanutbutter's thank you post was offensive, then the level of sensitivity is much higher than I would have expected in a Newbie forum.
The offensive parts were removed/changed by the moderator. See the italics and use your imagination. It wasn't a thank you post, he was lashing out because nobody was telling him what he wanted to hear - that is, "here is a link where you can download a free version of Windows 7 legally" (which doesn't exist).

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Old 12-17-2013, 11:36 AM   #26
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I guess a similar question could be asked, "Does Microsoft make something just like Ubuntu?" That sounds like a totally idiotic question, or a question designed to incite turmoil (trolling), but for some reason the converse is considered to be a reasonable and well thought out thing to ask.

But all that aside, no, there is no "free Windows 7 clone" made by the Linux community. Why would anyone want that? Likewise, Chevy does not make a Mustang and Ford does not make a Corvette.
 
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Old 12-17-2013, 11:38 AM   #27
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i thought op was a troll. but i tried to answer it sincerely and assumed he was just ignorant.
 
Old 12-17-2013, 11:59 AM   #28
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If Chevy made the Mustang then the Mustang would probably be attractive.
 
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Old 12-17-2013, 02:02 PM   #29
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Zorin OS is a lot like Microsoft Windows-
http://zorin-os.com/

At least a few of my associates think Zorin OS is simular to Windows since I introduced them to Linux. (recently)

It's Debian and Ubuntu based-
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=zorin
THIS! IMO the best suggestion. Desktop environment looks similar as seen on Windows 7 - and can be changed to look like in Ubuntu Unity, GNOME2 or even MacOSX.
Developers say it's way better than Windows 7 blah blah blah. Ok, I believe them, but it must be proved while using.

So next to Ubuntu, OpenSUSE, Linux Mint and Fedora, ZorinOS looks like newbie-friendly
 
Old 12-17-2013, 02:11 PM   #30
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The offensive parts were removed/changed by the moderator. See the italics and use your imagination. It wasn't a thank you post, he was lashing out because nobody was telling him what he wanted to hear - that is, "here is a link where you can download a free version of Windows 7 legally" (which doesn't exist).
Thanks Suicidaleggroll. I completely missed that.
 
  


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