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Old 05-16-2013, 01:14 PM   #1
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What would be better choice: ubuntu or red hat?


As I'm looking forward to learn python and app developing, I'm a bit confused between ubuntu and Red Hat..
 
Old 05-16-2013, 01:21 PM   #2
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Maybe this will simplify your choice:

- Ubuntu is free & Red Hat is not (and unusable without a paid subscription)
- Ubuntu is geared toward (beginner) user friendliness & Red Hat is geared toward professional usage

- Both can be used when it comes to python.

BTW: There is a free alternative for Red Hat: CentOS, which is almost identical to Red Hat.
 
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Old 05-16-2013, 01:27 PM   #3
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Maybe this will simplify your choice:
Even simpler: Choose Ubuntu, not Red Hat.

For the OP's indicated purpose and beginner status, Red Hat is not a good choice. Ubuntu is a good choice, maybe the best.

There are a lot of other distributions and a lot of people who will say there is some better choice than Ubuntu. None of that debate ever enlightens the original poster much.
 
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Old 05-16-2013, 01:38 PM   #4
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There are a lot of other distributions and a lot of people who will say there is some better choice than Ubuntu. None of that debate ever enlightens the original poster much.
You mean other than the arguments that Ubuntu is unstable, buggy, and Canonical sells your activity logs to 3rd parties for a profit? I think that would be pretty enlightening for the OP.

Ubuntu is not a good OS anymore in my opinion, and I have trouble recommending it to anybody, beginner or otherwise, for any purpose. There are much better distros out there that are just as easy to use.
 
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Old 05-16-2013, 02:30 PM   #5
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By python and app developing you're referring to Android development?

I have to be honest, I am a Linux developer and have to do stuff in Windows as well as use Windows. I found the eclipse development installation under Windows to work fairly good and honestly I think you ought to stay away from the variety of Linux distributions, XServer choices, along with the various preferences per person and give the development under Windows a shot first.

Just so you know, Google tested the Android development kit on Ubuntu.
 
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Old 05-16-2013, 04:37 PM   #6
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You mean other than the arguments that Ubuntu is unstable, buggy, and Canonical sells your activity logs to 3rd parties for a profit? I think that would be pretty enlightening for the OP.

Ubuntu is not a good OS anymore in my opinion, and I have trouble recommending it to anybody, beginner or otherwise, for any purpose. There are much better distros out there that are just as easy to use.
exactly. There is no need to invest in a RHEL just for basic programming, but you could use Fedora. the RedHat desktop platform, or if you want the long term life cycle of a basic RHEL then Id suggest CentOS.

In either case, Ubuntu is probably the last OS to use right now. Not only is it buggy, but as suicidaleggroll pointed out, they will take your personal data and sell it without your consent and you can not stop it easily.
 
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Old 05-16-2013, 05:55 PM   #7
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If you are looking to become a highly-paid app developer then Ubuntu is a fantastic choice. Out of all the distros, they have been the most successful (some might even say visionary) at partnering with Dell, Amazon, the PRC, etc.; integrating with social media; harvesting and selling user data; and so forth. Idealism aside, Ubuntu is a good case study if you're interested in the "gray area" at the intersection between Linux and capitalism. I do not personally use or recommend Ubuntu, but I must say some of the factors that other posters are pointing out as Ubuntu's negatives/flaws (for example Amazon targeting advertising) would actually be of great interest to me if I was, for example, developing a profitable app with any sort of ecommerce or advertising elements.

tl;dr Ubuntu tries to bring an "app-like" or "cloud" experience to the desktop, so I think it's a good choice to learn about app development.

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Old 05-16-2013, 06:02 PM   #8
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You mean other than the arguments that Ubuntu is unstable, buggy, and Canonical sells your activity logs to 3rd parties for a profit? I think that would be pretty enlightening for the OP.

Ubuntu is not a good OS anymore in my opinion, and I have trouble recommending it to anybody, beginner or otherwise, for any purpose. There are much better distros out there that are just as easy to use.
Are you referring to the Amazon listings when searching within Unity? I hope there isn't anything further.

If it's just the Amazon listings then running any other flavour of Ubuntu would remove that. Kubuntu has been working great for me to host my development environment for years.
 
Old 05-16-2013, 06:08 PM   #9
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If it's just the Amazon listings then running any other flavour of Ubuntu would remove that. Kubuntu has been working great for me to host my development environment for years.
Kubuntu is sponsored by Blue Systems, not Canonical. I would second that as a viable option.
 
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Are you referring to the Amazon listings when searching within Unity? I hope there isn't anything further.

If it's just the Amazon listings then running any other flavour of Ubuntu would remove that. Kubuntu has been working great for me to host my development environment for years.
http://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do

Yes, the various derivatives of Ubuntu that are developed/maintained by other groups avoid the problem. They are often more stable than Ubuntu as well.
 
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Old 05-16-2013, 07:42 PM   #11
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Druuna,

dnyaneshkc is almost right.

There really is a free version of Red Hat, It’s called CENTOS. It’s really Red Hat on steroids meaning it has a bunch of software included in the distro which doesn’t come with the common release of Red Hat.

CENTOS is easy to install, runs well has constant updates and can be used as a powerful server. Also easy to install additional packages.

It’s FREE. Give both a try and see which suites you best. Completely based on Red Hat but the CENTOS people can't use any reference to Red Hat.

Regards

BTW, Google CENTOS and see all the things they have to offer.
 
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Old 05-18-2013, 06:04 AM   #12
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There is another free Linux distribution similar to RedHat: Scientific Linux. It is developed by CERN and Fermilab.
It is compatible with CentOS (i. e. you can install CentOS RPMs on Scientific Linux and vice-versa)and you can certainly use it to study Python programming. Although you can do Python programming with almost any Linux distribution, I would not recommend to use Ubuntu. Besides the reasons offered in the previous responses, I remember
some unpleasant issues with wireless networking on a Dell laptop that disappeared when installing Scientific Linux.
 
Old 05-18-2013, 06:40 AM   #13
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Any debian based OS would be good choice for application developing.
 
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Old 05-18-2013, 08:42 AM   #14
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Any debian based OS would be good choice for application developing.
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As I'm looking forward to learn python and app developing
either choice after that is fine.
 
Old 05-18-2013, 09:48 AM   #15
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