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Old 08-27-2011, 01:03 PM   #46
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Thanks Thor I have a collection of pc's at the moment and need to call them something to remember what they are for.
You're apparently like me: a whole bunch of PC's (hand-me-downs or second-handers for the most part) all linked in a private network...you'll have to document all the IP addresses, before long

And yes, they get names...because you love 'em...
 
Old 09-02-2011, 11:57 AM   #47
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Well I am back again - the network card is installed and I ran the wizard and it says connected but firefox does not connect. The graphics card is installed and xorg ran automatically and says it is fine but the screen is dark green and I think I need to change the settings. So once again pointers please.
 
Old 09-02-2011, 01:00 PM   #48
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Hey there,

I was afraid you gave up, glad you did'nt!

Okay, so, the network first. Click on the top hat in the menu, see the item for networing, Go there. Then on to the setup, I suspect you did not enter the DNS servers yet, so wel'll need to look into the setup of the card. You may see two, make sure you select the right one. Is everything filled out corectly?

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fine but the screen is dark green
Screen...hmm, can you post a screenshot? The very first thing you see on power up, that is a blue menu, innit? Then some white text, and then the bouncing dots (they seem to be everywhere) and then...the screen. Admittedly, the default screen is dark - but I see a dark BLUE screen...so, the green confuses me somewhat...

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Old 09-03-2011, 09:07 AM   #49
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When I switch on the first screen after the bios asks me what to load with linux being the first option. This I find surprising as the only os on the hard drive is linux. The screen is very dark and the Macpup logo and graphics are lightish green. When I open any screen such as the top hat the panel is light green with black text. I wonder if the graphic card is faulty and I shall try removing it and then find another one to put in. The mouse pointer is blue with a white tip. The network tests and says it is working fine but nothing connects. When I click on the network there is nothing in dns but the next tab 'routing' shows the ip address of my router which is 192.168.1.0 the gateway shows as 0.0.0.0. I am sorry to be such a nuisance Thor thanks for your patience. Howard.
 
Old 09-03-2011, 09:58 AM   #50
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Okay, I think that...is MacPup as it comes "out of the box" - admidedly, not nice to look at...

The Grub is indeed a bit strange. Why choose if there's only Linux on board? Well, Linux is about choice, and you still have the choice to put something else next to MacPup...

By the way, this is what mine look like...I installed it to "click along" with you...

You may need to set the theme, select the right-most button (I think it's a jacket, dunnow)...

Oh and by the way, there's an unwritten rule I uphold:

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I am sorry to be such a nuisance Thor thanks for your patience
N-E-V-E-R apologise for wanting to learn, ever. I enjoy this more than you could imagine

Okay, well, let's look at the screen shot, I deliberately shot the network settings. This is where you should land. The fields in the shot are empty so as not to confuse you.

Let's go from the top to the bottom:

IP address, a set op numbers. I imagine you modem to have number 192.168.1.1, well, I'd suggest you fill out 192.168.1.10 in that one...
Netmask, 255.255.255.0 , always, no discussion.
Gateway, ah, now that's your modem. When from the factory, it has 192.168.1.1 as address, you may need to check the manual...but this is what goes in that field...
DNS parameters. These were given to you by your provider and need to be filled out here.

Hit "OK" to confirm and you're set. MacPup should ask to store this, of course we want this to be stored...

Looking forward to the next step!!

Thor

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Old 09-03-2011, 10:18 AM   #51
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1. I have removed the graphics card and used xorg to go back to the built in vga and the screen is back to light blue with colours at the bottom of the screen 'icons' also opened screens are now back to white with black text.
2. My screen looks nothing like yours.
3. I can see the ip info but you did not say where to go to enter values?
4. out of curiosity where are you based - I am in the UK and our time is now GMT + 1. - Howard
 
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For the screen, try to use xvesa instead of xorg.

Kind regards
 
Old 09-03-2011, 10:38 AM   #53
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I have removed the graphics card and used xorg to go back to the built in vga and the screen is back to light blue with colours at the bottom of the screen 'icons' also opened screens are now back to white with black text.
That sounds normal, you can change everything...the right-most button lets you choose a "theme", I choose this one (the only one) just because the screen was too dark...I suggest you play around and stick to what you like...

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My screen looks nothing like yours.
Hmm, you may need to "play around" a bit to get to a result you like...

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I can see the ip info but you did not say where to go to enter values?
Ah...hm, my bad...let's take the "scenic route"...
Menu (Gothic M) - Applications - Setup - Internet connection wizard. Look for the button next to "Internet by wired or wireless lan" and click on it. Next, choose "Network wizard". Your network card should show up in a table, click on it to select it and the button right under it "eth0" (that's what mine says) - then, choose the button "Static IP" and (finally) you're there where you fill out all the info required...

And...I live in (just about) the same timezone...

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Very strange now that I go to settings the built in network card is detected and is conflicting with the card I put in. I have removed the extra card and following your instructions I have set up as you showed. I now get error could not set default route - puppy got the following error message
route -SIOCADDRT: File exists.
 
Old 09-03-2011, 11:08 AM   #55
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I have rebooted and gone through the procedure again and no longer get the error message - it says everything ok but still cannot connect.
 
Old 09-03-2011, 11:20 AM   #56
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Okay, tell me what this does, please...you do this in a console (button with the black screen)

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ping 127.0.0.1
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ping 192.168.1.1
What's the make of your modem? Is it an external modem? How does the outher PC connect to the modem? Do you use a switch (something like this) or hook up directly to the modem?

The last hurdle is proving to be a big one
 
Old 09-03-2011, 11:28 AM   #57
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my modem is a 4 port adsl with wireless - pup is connected via an ethernet cable as is my main w7 pc. I have them sitting side by side at the moment. ping 127 etc. gives continuous 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1 seq=226 ttl=64 time=0.098 ms. With 192 it is almost identical with 127.
 
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Okay! Good, so! networking is a fact. Can you scratch up the IP address of the DNS server of your provider? If you dont know, let me know who your provider is...maybe I can figure this out via their site...
If you have the IP address, try trhe same: ping the DNS server, lemme know...
Edit : by the way, "time=0.098 ms." - is this real? Wow, this is pretty good mileage...

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Old 09-03-2011, 11:50 AM   #59
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my adsl2 is up to 8MB and I normally get very close to 11MB my dns server is 89.243.53.242 and I get no response from it using pup. I also get no response from that on w7 pc so it must be wrong. The modem router is an Echolife HG502b
 
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Some thoughts.
Start from the beginning:
Does the router give out DHCP?
How is the network setup in the windows PC?
(DHCP, fixed IP?)
Can you ping to the outside
Code:
ping 212.100.160.51
ping google.com
What is the output from
Code:
ifconfig
netstat -r
cat /etc/resolv.conf
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I also get no response from that on w7 pc so it must be wrong.
Could it be the router is blocking ping?
Is the router setup to have and give out IP's to several computers, perhaps it has MAC restrictions setup.

Kind regards

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