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Old 05-19-2006, 07:52 AM   #16
JUSTgeek
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Oh my god! What have I started

Well to summarise it all:
Gentoo:
Has newbie friendly setup (+)
Not know for high stability (-)
Easy to add stuff if needed (+)

Slackware
Great support channels (+)
Need experience in Linux (im a windows guy going linux, be gentle)(-)
Possible to set it up so it will online run a browser.(+)
drkstr will make an complete installation guide (+)

Lost anything in the long posts?
 
Old 05-19-2006, 08:07 AM   #17
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Try'em both
 
Old 05-19-2006, 09:00 AM   #18
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Quote:
Gentoo:
Has newbie friendly setup (+)
Not know for high stability (-)
Easy to add stuff if needed (+)
Please don't get me wrong. Gentoo is also a very stable distro. It just hasn't been popularized for it like Slackware has. One of the reasons for this popularity is the fact that it is a pure Linux distro which uses the unmodified source of official Linux releases. Not a lot of people know that Slackware was actually the first Linux distro developed by Linus Torvalds and was then later taken up by Patrick Volkerding who gave it it's new name, "Slackware".

as Agrouf suggests, try them both. They are both really great distros in my opinion.

regards,
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Old 05-20-2006, 08:52 PM   #19
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You forgot to add to your Gentoo list that it is easy to update programs, controlling what features to include, and tons of documentation.

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Slackware is universally known for it's stability while Gentoo is not.
That is loads of bull. Gentoo is stable and it gives an option to use Gentoo kernel or vanilla kernel. Also it is more secured than Slackware because it uses versions that are up to date with out sacificing stability and reliability.
 
Old 05-21-2006, 10:48 AM   #20
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Originally quoted by: Electro
You forgot to add to your Gentoo list that it is easy to update programs, controlling what features to include, and tons of documentation.
This is definatly a great feature of Gentoo. This is a big reason why Gentoo is one of my favorite distros.

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Originally quoted by: Electro
That is loads of bull. Gentoo is stable and it gives an option to use Gentoo kernel or vanilla kernel. Also it is more secured than Slackware because it uses versions that are up to date with out sacificing stability and reliability.
I think we will have to agree to disagree on this point.


JUSTgeek,
Haven't had a chance to set up my web-client yet as I have been out of town. I will probably do it here in the next few days. I'll let you know when/where I post it if you are still interested.

regards,
...drkstr
 
Old 06-27-2006, 06:20 AM   #21
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Hi any news drkstr?

Tried setting up a linux (ubuntu) by myself and got frustrated!
 
Old 06-27-2006, 05:19 PM   #22
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Hi sorry,

Yes I messed around with it a bit and got one working. I haven't had the time to write a guide on it. If you want to give it a try, I will do my best to talk you through it.

Just download a slackware CD and install a minimum distro. For a good idea on the bare minimum packages needed to run Linux, check out the Linux From Scratch Project.

After a basic install, you're going to want to install a bare bones windows manager that you can customize to do nothing but run a web browser. xfce, fluebox, fvwm are all good ones. You will also need to select a web browser to run. I used Seamonkey, but firefox will be easier to set up.

Once you have everything configured, you should try having it set up to restrict the webuser from running any shell commands. You should also restrict write access to anywhere but the cache directory. You can also install mplayer and flash plugins once you get it up and running.

Just let me know if you need any help once you get started and I will try to give more details.

regards,
...aaron
 
Old 06-27-2006, 05:36 PM   #23
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I think the original poster should define what he really means by 'only running a webbrowser and nothing else'. Taken literally, a floppy based distro running lynx would be almost the least amount of system that fits the description. Since the web browser is the focal application, shouldn't there be some question about what web browser, and what it takes to support it? Is the browser going to be manned by a human operator, or would an automated crawler/spider/robot be adequate. What, if anything, has to happen to the results of all the web browsing? How is the system to be attached to the web? Support for wireless? A graphical browser probably has to run on an X server (although not necessarily), so what about the X support, or non-X support? Does the browser have to be capable of running every last known plug-in (64-bit may be an issue, then)?

Of course I'm being pedantic here, but really, if all the systems have to do is run any decent browser, any modern distribution will do just fine. Modest effort required to make the system secure, and the job is done.

--- rod.
 
Old 07-01-2006, 03:52 AM   #24
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I think the original poster should define what he really means by 'only running a webbrowser and nothing else'. Taken literally, a floppy based distro running lynx would be almost the least amount of system that fits the description. Since the web browser is the focal application, shouldn't there be some question about what web browser, and what it takes to support it? Is the browser going to be manned by a human operator, or would an automated crawler/spider/robot be adequate. What, if anything, has to happen to the results of all the web browsing? How is the system to be attached to the web? Support for wireless? A graphical browser probably has to run on an X server (although not necessarily), so what about the X support, or non-X support? Does the browser have to be capable of running every last known plug-in (64-bit may be an issue, then)?
I'm not sure what the original intent of the poster was, but I got the impression it was for a "internet cafe" type setup. I got Slackware (or substitue distro of choice) working with just enough to run a light weight windows manager (init 4) that launches Seamonkey (Mozilla) at login, then closes out of X (login screen) if the browser is closed. I also had it working with mplayerplug-in, swf, and the adobe pdf plugin. The user I created is restricted from running any shell commands, and only has write access to the mozilla cache directory (which can't be seen from the browser itself).

This set up would work perfectly as a public internet client, but if this is not the intention, then one would abviously need to create their own set up that works for them.

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Of course I'm being pedantic here, but really, if all the systems have to do is run any decent browser, any modern distribution will do just fine. Modest effort required to make the system secure, and the job is done.
Yes, Slackware is not a requirement, this is just the distro I have and is therefore the one I used.

...aaron
 
Old 07-02-2006, 07:56 AM   #25
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Wow, all these messages just to help out, thanks you guys.

Well I must admid I suck at getting it up and running. Maybe because im brought up with windows.

There has been some talk about the purpose of the client:
The client will be running in a internet cafe. This particular PC, will only be running 1 website that are used for checking tour guides. (the website is managed by me)
The computer will be used by approx: 200 people a day

The website uses:
Normal grapics.
Flash
Movies (avi)

It would be perfect if the movies could be saved on the harddrive, for faster loading.

The internet connection will be WiFi

This type of machine will have at least 20 "brothers" around in different places, so I need something I can just load and then its running. Disc image or something.

Is it possible, and DrkStr can I hire you for this or something... All seems so complicated.-

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