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Old 08-20-2010, 08:31 PM   #16
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This is a long shot but have you tried running memtest86 on your memory? Maybe problems loading the data into ram.
 
Old 08-20-2010, 09:03 PM   #17
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have you tried hitting (I believe) Control + Alt + F3 and seeing if you can drop to a command line interface?
This did not work in a couple of the live cd that I tried.

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try reseting your BIOS/SETUP to default
unfortunately this did not work

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maybe a BIOS update may do it... but it is far more dangerous to do
I agree, I am saving that one to last. I did have a unpleasant experience doing that one time....one time was one time too many.....lol. But I will not rule it out if all else fails.

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If you can enter an isolinux option do "linux text" or "linux expert".
not sure if that isn't over my head...if I have to ask how to do it, it is most likely is beyond my knowledge

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you might also try booting with "nomodeset" or "xdriver=vesa"
tried vesa with one of the live cd's for sure with negative results....I don't know what "nomodeset" is ??

ok, I think I have caught up with all of the unanswered questions that were asked of me. I wish I knew all of the terms and question that were suggested and recomended to me, but my knowledge of some things are limited.

thanks all,
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Old 08-21-2010, 07:42 AM   #18
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EDIT: any chance a bios upgrade might help ??
Probably yes. But there is a problem: get the updated BIOS from where, since your MB isn't listed on www.asus.com?
 
Old 08-21-2010, 09:11 AM   #19
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Did you try...

Knoppix was recommended to you. Have you tried it using its capacity to boot with its many cheatcodes? "knoppix 2" was a suggestion. The idea is that you might be able to isolate the fault.

ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/knoppi...cheatcodes.txt

It may not be the solution, but the newest BIOS wouldn't hurt. Your fear is probably greater than the risk you incur. Courage, and read the instructions with care.

What does the command "dmesg" tell you for the live-cds you mention that you can boot? You might get an idea about what goes right and use the information for parameters on a boot prompt with one of those live-cds.

Have you tried live-cds from all the major schools of linux, debian/ubuntu, suse, PCLinuxOS/mandriva, gentoo,etc.

As a SUSE user, I would try to start an installation of 11.3 using the installation DVD to see what happens, but I may just be suffering from a case of blind faith.

Last edited by thorkelljarl; 08-21-2010 at 11:39 AM.
 
Old 08-21-2010, 10:26 AM   #20
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Did you try...

Knoppix was recommended to you. Have you tried it using its capacity to boot with its many cheatcodes? "knoppix 2" was a suggestion. The idea is that you might be able to isolate the fault.

ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/knoppi...cheatcodes.txt
could someone please guide me on a procedure how to enter these cheat codes ? I have never done such a thing and would have not idea where to start....I am willing to learn as this sounds interesting.

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What does the command "dmesg" tell you for the live-cds you mention that you can boot? You might get an idea about what goes right and use the information for parameters on a boot prompt with one of those live-cds.
I am in the process of a memory test right now, I will obtain the "dmesq" info later

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Have you tried live-cds from all the major schools of linux, debian/ubuntu, suse, PCLinuxOS/mandriva, gentoo,etc.
Yes I sure did.....Ubuntu, Debian, Sabayon, PCL and many many others based on those. I have a very large stack in front of me. Ubuntu 10.10 alfa 3 is the only one where the live cd will load and install. But Ubuntu is not my favorite, I should be able to install something else on this computer.

I will download and burn knoppix 2 now and if I figure out how to use the "cheat chodes", I will try that.

I am also in the process of doing a memory test as suggested by Daedra.

I am amazed at the responses I am receiving, I consider them all good ones !!!
 
Old 08-21-2010, 10:43 AM   #21
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Why knoppix?, use the system rescue CD. It is much better with easy access to many boot options
 
Old 08-21-2010, 11:37 AM   #22
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Google...

http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Cheat_Codes

The latest version of Knoppix is 6.2.1. "knoppix 2" is a cheatcode to boot with into runlevel 2, that is without the X windows system running.

As posted, Knoppix is only one possibility, and trying the forensic and rescue live-cds on the list is an idea.

http://www.livecdlist.com/
 
Old 08-21-2010, 08:17 PM   #23
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hi

I was not trying to interrogate you on how many distros ok?

I think others have mentioned how to use knoppix but any good live cd....has a bootcode also known as a cheatcode or known as kernel boot parameter.....meaning a string that you type at the welcome screen.....

eg for knoppix screen....type "knoppix 2" without the quotes to boot knoppix to run level 2 ....meaning no graphical window manager.

2) I have seen your images.....they appear to show udev attempting to detect and configure your hardware.

This means a couple of things.

sorry to show more info but others might see something I am missing?

3) udev image ...../dev/sr0.......this is your optical drive......since you have tested your burns on other computers....I am thinking its your optical drive failing to read correctly and so causing issues


can you swap in since you have a desktop pc
http://www.shopping.com/xSBS-ASUS-As...5869610~PT-xPO

someone else's optical drive and try to boot normally before trying bootcodes or cheatcodes etc?

4) HCL refers to

http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/ a link is in top RH corner of LQ site

however I did a quick search using the search link for cm5571 and got no hits
 
Old 08-21-2010, 09:42 PM   #24
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hi

I have seen your images.....they appear to show udev attempting to detect and configure your hardware.

This means a couple of things.

udev image ...../dev/sr0.......this is your optical drive......since you have tested your burns on other computers....I am thinking its your optical drive failing to read correctly and so causing issues

Use someone else's optical drive and try to boot normally before trying bootcodes or cheatcodes etc?
I really like this idea....it may take me a couple of days to accomplish this, but it will be next on my list to do.

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I think others have mentioned how to use knoppix but any good live cd....has a bootcode also known as a cheatcode or known as kernel boot parameter.....meaning a string that you type at the welcome screen.....

eg for knoppix screen....type "knoppix 2" without the quotes to boot knoppix to run level 2 ....meaning no graphical window manager.
ok I did try this tip but had no idea what I was doing and got no where. But I think you just gave me enough of a tip how to get to the place where to enter the cheat codes....I hope !!!

Even though I have tried these media on two of my other computers and they loaded just fine, I am still going to burn a couple to a different media and try them. That will eliminate it being a media that my Asus-CM5571-BR003 doesn't like....one never knows for sure unless you try it. I also have planned to temporally install a Gforce video card and see how it reacts with that. This is after I try switching the optical drive and if that doesn't work.

I don't think I ever replied back that the memory test I did was successful.

Thanks aus9
 
Old 08-22-2010, 04:55 AM   #25
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hi

now in case I am wrong about your optical drive being a bit twitchy....you can search for your wireless device yourself but a quick google shows

dreamlinux

http://www.dreamlinuxforums.org/wiki...s_%26_USB_HSPA

http://distrowatch.com/table.php?dis...ion=dreamlinux

BTW pls don't be scared by the Brasil connection....one or two ppl I have meant thru the sidux forum are from Brasil and when you get a chance you might also be interested in
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=epidemic

I am sorry if this appears to be a hijack of your thread.....but I need to say....if I and others can not help be aware that there is a vast number of better people out there who are altruistric and are lovely humans and love to help.....yes I drink aussie beer....heh heh.

You will be delighted with taking courage to post to different forums if we can not help.

"the seeker finds"

good luck

PS in the Debian world your wireless needs firmware if not not already enabled by a better distro .....firmware-ralink
 
Old 08-23-2010, 05:30 PM   #26
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I am thinking its your optical drive failing to read correctly and so causing issues
hm... maybe it's the issue - try to make a bootable USB stick and boot from that (use http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ to make booteable stick from an .iso - the windows version of unetbootin behaves exactly the same way as the linux versions)
 
  


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