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Old 08-19-2009, 10:57 PM   #1
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Website discrimination against linux or my computer invaded?


I was enjoying a web comic (Skin Deep by Kory Bingman) at webcomicsnation
http://www.webcomicsnation.com/koryb...ingle&ID=93438
when all of a sudden the pages would load but the comic panel (main image) would not although various other images on the page would load. My browser(firefox) would load the web page with out the comic panel and report "Done"

After trying several pages I assumed that they were having server trouble. Then after a week or so and still no main image, I started to get suspicious. So I tried it on my old windows 2000 computer and the comic panel loads just fine. Back to my Ubuntu lap top, and images won't load. Same problem with another comic from webcomicsnation.

I have tried several things with cookies but no luck yet.
So I am wondering if:
-- there is some reason they don't want linux users looking at their comics.
-- or if there is a cookie hidden elswhere on my computer that is blocking comic panels from them.

For both computers, the connection is by 56k modem (I know that sucks but that is all I've got from this location) Over the same phone lines via the same Internet Service Provider.

As far as I can tell my linux computer operates without any other problems whatsoever.

Any suggestions ???

############### hardware / OS information ##############
-- For Linux I run
-- -- Ubuntu 8.04
-- -- Kernel 2.6.24-16 generic
-- -- Gnome 2.22.1
-- -- Dell Studio 1535 laptop
-- -- with approx 200 GiB disk space remaining
-- -- Browser is FireFox 3.0b5

-- For Windows I run
-- -- Windows 2000 professional
-- -- Service Pak 2
-- -- Browser is FireFox 2.0.0.13
 
Old 08-19-2009, 11:45 PM   #2
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Hi,
I tried that site and loaded the comics (Skin Deep) with no trouble. I'm using FFx 3.5.2 on a Debian Squeeze box. You could try upgrading FFx and see if the problem persists. It's certainly not a linux issue.
Cheers,
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Old 08-19-2009, 11:51 PM   #3
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You could try to:
clear the cache
if you have a proxy, disable the proxy.
try another browser

BTW, here I have no problem with the site.
 
Old 08-20-2009, 12:05 AM   #4
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I use iceweasel (Debian's version of Firefox), and I also use dial up for the net, and I had no problem viewing the main comic image from the link you gave (see attachment below -- note, I did shrink it via the gimp for posting here). I also had no problem viewing the previous comic images either. So, I don't believe they are discriminating against Linux. It does say, after pressing "New" (again, from the link you gave), that there will be no comic this week.

Check to see if javascript is enabled on your browser (under Edit - Preferences - Content). Perhaps you disabled it, or installed no-script, or something.

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Old 08-20-2009, 08:45 AM   #5
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more info

Well, when the malfunction developed I had been reviewing some of the pages and then the next one I looked at wouldn't load the comic panel, and when I tried previous ones that I had just viewed, they would not load the comic panel either, and I had done nothing with my options of my software or operating system. Then I went to another comic that they handle and loaded a few pages and again the comic panels stopped loading in the same manner.

As to clearing cache etc.

Each time I shut down the browser it is set to automatically clear the cache and othe private data.

As to cookies:
-- I only allow a few to be set on a session only basis
-- only one site has its cookies always accepted.
-- all the rest are blocked
-- I require notification of any attempts to set cookies.

Why would a site stop allowing me to load part of their pages?
-- would a site be concerned that with Linux I could do something to their site or with their material that I could not do with windows?
or
What could be put on my computer to cause such blockage?
or
?
 
Old 08-20-2009, 10:50 AM   #6
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Quote:
Why would a site stop allowing me to load part of their pages?
-- would a site be concerned that with Linux I could do something to their site or with their material that I could not do with windows?
or
What could be put on my computer to cause such blockage?
or
?
Did you tried another browser?
 
Old 08-20-2009, 01:19 PM   #7
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Maybe it's tcp_window_scaling ?
See here especially post #6

If that works, an explanation is here
 
Old 08-22-2009, 09:34 PM   #8
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AHAH! I found it ---- but how ---- ?

I have found the problem!
In the menue structure of FireFox under:
Edit/Preferences/Content/Load Images Automatically/Exceptions

The Load Images Automatically box was checked
AND
In exceptions, I found the Web Comics Nation site listed!

Once I removed the exception the images loaded as expected.

But that begs the question, How did that exception get set ????

I know that I did nothing intentionally that should have done that ??? and it happened while viewing one page after another. Suddenly the next page would not load the comic panel and no others would after that. It sounds like something invaded my computer and set that parameter.

ALSO

I seem to be having problem with pages that have additional information to be displayed by JavaScript. In the FireFox preferences panel, I have JavaScript enabled and for the advanced settings I have checked both "remove and resize windows" and "raise or lower windows" yet when I click on links that should raise a window with additional information, nothing happens. For instance at the web page:
http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/Art...699-68,00.html

Is there anybody out there really familiar with FireFox that has a hint as to what is going on?
 
Old 08-23-2009, 11:50 AM   #9
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I know that I did nothing intentionally that should have done that ???
My guess, you changed it but don't know it.

Quote:
would a site be concerned that with Linux I could do something to their site or with their material that I could not do with windows?
No
 
Old 08-23-2009, 11:16 PM   #10
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cudda happened this way

Quote:
Originally Posted by repo View Post
My guess, you changed it but don't know it.
I did discover that If I right click on a loaded image, that a firefox menu pops up, and one of the choices is to block images from that site, but I don't believe I have ever seen that pop up menu before.

And that still leaves the question about Java script informational windows not working any more.
 
Old 08-23-2009, 11:24 PM   #11
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@ dgoddard,

Somebody asked earlier, and I didn't see a reply:

Do you have NoScript, or for that matter, AdBlocker, installed? Both of these influence greatly, the stuff a website is allowed to do on your machine, and what content gets displayed how/when.

As to "how the settings got set if you didn't set them?", I'd *guess* you musta set them without realizing it, either by errant mouse click or key-combo by mistake, OR an update to either NoScript or AdBlocker's subscription included a default which blocked the images.

I can attest to the fact that FF has a LOT of (weird IMO) key-combinations, that have for me produced some very bizarre effects by accident when I have pressed them without knowing what I pressed; just the other day, one of my pet rats got onto my keyboard, and suddenly my FF window was gone, but I had a new window open, with about 25 new tabs opened up, all of them identical, with the exact same website in them all


Sasha

PS - for further information on 'your computer being invaded' if you're still concerned, read HERE

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