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Old 11-26-2011, 05:49 PM   #1
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Warning for my friends (Phorm in Brazil and I presume elsewhere)


Phorms The company is in my country, in collaboration with ISP "Oi/Telemar."
I mean, do not elect to use Slackware if your ISP is not reliable.
Upon use, the DEPHORMATION plugin in Firefox. Is there anything else I can do besides changing ISP ?

There is no alternative for me to switch ISP.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phorm

Thank you for attention

ps : At the moment I use Windows7

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Old 11-26-2011, 05:54 PM   #2
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What on earth does this have to do with Slackware specifically?
 
Old 11-26-2011, 05:55 PM   #3
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I mean, do not elect to use Slackware if your ISP is not reliable.
Yeah, I know the company
Sorry but what does slackware have to do with all of it?
 
Old 11-26-2011, 06:12 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by afreitascs View Post
Phorms The company is in my country, in collaboration with ISP "Oi/Telemar."
I mean, do not elect to use Slackware if your ISP is not reliable.
Upon use, the DEPHORMATION plugin in Firefox. Is there anything else I can do besides changing ISP ?

There is no alternative for me to switch ISP.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phorm

Thank you for attention

ps : At the moment I use Windows7
Is this a random plug for the above-mentioned company? Spam perhaps?
Rubbish.
 
Old 11-26-2011, 06:38 PM   #5
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hey, on the bright side, it's definitely not a homework question...
:-)
 
Old 11-26-2011, 07:12 PM   #6
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is he saying that Slackware hosts somehow don't work with this ISP?
 
Old 11-26-2011, 07:14 PM   #7
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I guess we'll have to wait for the OP to clarify it.
 
Old 11-26-2011, 07:52 PM   #8
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If I understood it right, he means that his ISP company, called "Telemar/Oi", have brought the Phorm company into our country (I'm in the same country as he is - Brazil). But this has nothing to do with Slackware - unless other distros have a solution against Phorm and Slackware doesn't.
 
Old 11-26-2011, 08:20 PM   #9
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What good have a secure operating system, such as Slackware, if you do not use a reliable ISP!

Before being in Brazil, Phorm was in England!

One must be careful in choosing your ISP!

Thank you and please excuse the inconvenience. Is that I'm angry!

Anyway serves as a warning!

thanks
 
Old 11-26-2011, 11:07 PM   #10
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win7 != Slackware!= apple juice != Ewoks

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What good have a secure operating system, such as Slackware, if you do not use a reliable ISP
In all seriousness, I'd expect yours to be a case where a secure OS would be even more desirable than otherwise.

I didn't read the entire wiki page--which contains zero instances of "Slack" or "linux"--and I'm still at a loss for explaining what it has to do with one's choice of OS representing a hazard. If anything it's proof that my Slackware box is better than your Windows Seven.

/ChewbaccaDefense
 
Old 11-27-2011, 12:31 AM   #11
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I'm still at a loss for explaining what it has to do with one's choice of OS representing a hazard.
From what I understand of the problem your right.

The ISP is redirecting application layer level traffic (notably HTTP), the only way around this is a VPN to a point outside the ISP's network, which they may then block as well. None of this is specific to any operating system.
 
Old 11-27-2011, 03:51 AM   #12
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Wow, I am glad I use Debian. You slackers got some serious issues to deal with
 
Old 11-27-2011, 06:53 AM   #13
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Wow, I am glad I use Debian. You slackers got some serious issues to deal with
I know. I didn't sleep last night for worrying about it.




It's right to be outraged by use of Phorm by your ISP, not only are the personal privacy concerns an issue (though lets face it, they can probably profile you well enough by just looking at what dns domain names your system looks up), but it also steals ad-revenue from site owners by rewriting the hypertext on their pages in transit and replacing the original ads with ones belonging to the ISP. This is morally and legally dubious at best and caused a controversy in the UK when it was trialled by BT.

To the OP, I'd say: Write a letter to your ISP to register your objection to its use. Ranting on a forum like this really does no good, and presenting it as some sort of threat specific to Slackware just makes you look like an idiot. (Sorry, but it does).

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Old 11-27-2011, 11:19 AM   #14
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I know. I didn't sleep last night for worrying about it.




It's right to be outraged by use of Phorm by your ISP, not only are the personal privacy concerns an issue (though lets face it, they can probably profile you well enough by just looking at what dns domain names your system looks up), but it also steals ad-revenue from site owners by rewriting the hypertext on their pages in transit and replacing the original ads with ones belonging to the ISP. This is morally and legally dubious at best and caused a controversy in the UK when it was trialled by BT.
thanks for the input! :-)

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To the OP, I'd say: Write a letter to your ISP to register your objection to its use. Ranting on a forum like this really does no good, and presenting it as some sort of threat specific to Slackware just makes you look like an idiot. (Sorry, but it does).
Yes. I've registered and I'm fighting with my ISP about Phorm!

I want to even write a letter to the President, Ministers, etc! I am not alone!

A more appropriate forum, and I myself have participated in my country:
http://www.hardware.com.br/comunidad...phorm/1056667/

Correct! This is not the best for exposing this case, Phorm. My intention
is disclosed. Aside from that, here is another Brazilian
I think they should be aware of and fight against Phorm, because I
think Phorm is a threat to Internet freedom, and this issue I think is
interesting to anyone ...

To be or not be an idiot, it's irrelevant!


thank you for your replies!
 
Old 11-27-2011, 11:21 AM   #15
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Ranting on a forum like this really does no good, and presenting it as some sort of threat specific to Slackware just makes you look like an idiot. (Sorry, but it does).
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