Linux - Newbie This Linux forum is for members that are new to Linux.
Just starting out and have a question?
If it is not in the man pages or the how-to's this is the place! |
| Notices |
Welcome to LinuxQuestions.org, a friendly and active Linux Community.
You are currently viewing LQ as a guest. By joining our community you will have the ability to post topics, receive our newsletter, use the advanced search, subscribe to threads and access many other special features. Registration is quick, simple and absolutely free. Join our community today!
Note that registered members see fewer ads, and ContentLink is completely disabled once you log in.
Are you new to LinuxQuestions.org? Visit the following links:
Site Howto |
Site FAQ |
Sitemap |
Register Now
If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. If you need to reset your password, click here.
Having a problem logging in? Please visit this page to clear all LQ-related cookies.
 |
GNU/Linux Basic Guide
This 255-page guide will provide you with the keys to understand the philosophy of free software, teach you how to use and handle it, and give you the tools required to move easily in the world of GNU/Linux. Many users and administrators will be taking their first steps with this GNU/Linux Basic guide and it will show you how to approach and solve the problems you encounter.
Click Here to receive this Complete Guide absolutely free. |
Due to network maintenance being performed by our provider, LQ will be down starting at 05:01 AM UTC. The exact duration of the downtime isn't currently known. We apologize for the inconvenience.
|
 |
07-29-2010, 03:39 PM
|
#1
|
|
LQ Newbie
Registered: Dec 2008
Location: Devon, UK
Distribution: Ubuntu 10.4
Posts: 18
Rep:
|
Want to use Windows Boot Loader - Install to Boot Sector of Linux Partition?
Hello there, i am a newcomer to Linux. I have had some past experience but have never got into it like i have now. Really enjoying Ubuntu Linux, except hardware support (My laptop is new though).
I have decided i want to try some other distributions. I have tried Slackware in the past and found it was brilliant for letting me get under the bonnet and actually learn about linux, where i found it hard with a lot of distros suddenly jumping in my way as the bonnet is opened.
I now want to boot another distribution (Possibly Slack) but dislike using Linux Boot Loaders such as GRUB and LILO. I was wondering if there was a way i could get another distribution onto the Windows Boot Loader screen, i didn't configure it before because i am currently using the Ubuntu 'Wubu' Windows installer, which did all the job for me.
I was wondering if instead of installing Slackware to the MBR, if i install the boot strap to the boot sector of the main partition im creating, will i be able to select it as an OS using the Windows boot loader?
If anyone is able to help me, i will really appreciate it!
Cheers guys 
|
|
|
|
07-29-2010, 03:41 PM
|
#2
|
|
LQ Newbie
Registered: Dec 2008
Location: Devon, UK
Distribution: Ubuntu 10.4
Posts: 18
Original Poster
Rep:
|
Oh, and also i was wondering if anyone knew a suggestion for a distribution for me. I loved Slackware but really dislike not having a package manager. Also i have attempted to use ones like Slapt-Get and disliked them.
Does anyone know a distribution similar to Slack, but with a good package manager?
Cheers
|
|
|
|
07-29-2010, 04:50 PM
|
#3
|
|
Senior Member
Registered: Apr 2008
Distribution: PCLinux, Ubuntu, Peppermint
Posts: 3,393
|
If you want to use the windows bootloader and put a Linux distributin on a separate partition, you may be better off using EasyBCD. It will modify vista/win 7 bootloader with options to boot Linux.
http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1
If you are not using vista or win 7, this won't work. You didn't mentin your windows version. It is possible to boot Linux from xp. I don't know how having a wubi install of Ubuntu will impact your situation as I've never used wubi.
|
|
|
|
07-29-2010, 06:13 PM
|
#4
|
|
Senior Member
Registered: Sep 2005
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne UK
Distribution: Any free distro.
Posts: 3,398
Rep: 
|
In the last link of my signature I carry the methods of Task E4 : using NTLDR (off Win2k/XP) and Task E5 : using bootmgr (off Vista/Win7) to boot Linux.
Yes it can be done but you put in 3 to 5 times amount of work than Grub for NTLDR. For bootmgr it is about 2 to 3 times more work. I have stretched bootmgr to boot 150 Linux. If you want bootmgr to boot just one system here is the tutorial I wrote to explain the key steps.
I think EasyBCD has been developed to configure bootmgr to boot other systems, including Linux, in a Windows desktop. This is a third party program and is easier than using boot loader's own utilities. To understand the inner working can only be achieved by working in the terminal mode with the boot loaders. They are all the same. If you understand one you know them all.
Grub2 can read a ntfs partition so one can put Grub2 inside any Linux. This is the thread I have just written.
The easiest, simplest and the most powerful boot loader is still Grub. Grub1 is easier than Grub2 but the latter is more powerful.
Last edited by saikee; 07-29-2010 at 06:19 PM.
|
|
|
|
07-29-2010, 06:53 PM
|
#5
|
|
LQ Veteran
Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Australia
Distribution: Lots ...
Posts: 11,225
|
Just install your bootloader to the (root) boot sector as part of the Linux install. Then Use EasyBCD as suggested. For Win7 I found I had to use the Beta for EasyBCD2.
As for a distro, I still like Arch. Nice and lean, and pacman is excellent for what I need.
Caveat: I've never used wubi (and won't), so I don't know how that will affect things. Seems to cause a lot of angst judging by threads here.
Last edited by syg00; 07-29-2010 at 06:55 PM.
|
|
|
|
07-29-2010, 07:06 PM
|
#6
|
|
LQ Newbie
Registered: Dec 2008
Location: Devon, UK
Distribution: Ubuntu 10.4
Posts: 18
Original Poster
Rep:
|
I don't like using Wubi, but i am being lazy with my new laptop.
I have considered using Arch for a while, isn't it Slackware-Based, Always looked like an interesting distribution that i have wanted to try.
Also, cheers for directing me to that program, it looks like exactly the kind of thing i have been looking for, top bloke 
Last edited by Xenarios; 07-29-2010 at 07:08 PM.
|
|
|
|
07-29-2010, 07:11 PM
|
#7
|
|
Senior Member
Registered: Sep 2009
Location: dallas, tx
Distribution: Slackware - current multilib/gsb Arch
Posts: 1,949
Rep: 
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenarios
I don't like using Wubi, but i am being lazy with my new laptop.
I have considered using Arch for a while, isn't it Slackware-Based, Always looked like an interesting distribution that i have wanted to try.
Also, cheers for directing me to that program, it looks like exactly the kind of thing i have been looking for, top bloke 
|
Arch isn't, in any way that I'm aware of, affiliated with Slackware. They have a lot of similarities.
|
|
|
|
07-30-2010, 03:41 AM
|
#8
|
|
LQ 5k Club
Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Oldham, Lancs, England
Distribution: Laptop: Slackware 14.0 // Desktop: Slackware64 14.0 // Netbook: Slackware 14.0
Posts: 6,183
|
Have a look at Salix, if you're interested in Slackware based distros.
http://www.salixos.org/wiki/index.php/Home
|
|
|
|
| Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:26 PM.
|
|
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing
Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute
content, let us know.
|
Latest Threads
LQ News
|
|