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Old 07-26-2009, 09:46 AM   #16
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'Slackware-Links'. More than just SlackwareŽ links! all by itself
one opinion of a good book ... which, by the way isn't that great for what's being discussed.
'Slackware-Links'. More than just SlackwareŽ links!
in the signature:
'Slackware-Links'. More than just SlackwareŽ links!
'Slackware-Links'. More than just SlackwareŽ links!
in one thread, so far.
nothing but the link, then a quick opinion of one book, then the link, both times with the link already in the signature, repeated by itself and with one sentence in the actual post.
four times in two posts, 75% of which were the link to the site 'Slackware-Links'. More than just SlackwareŽ links!

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Old 07-26-2009, 09:51 AM   #17
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Don't know if this is the proper place for this thread...

I have some experience with Linux. Part of my work is maintaining some RHEL 4 servers. I have Debian installed on my home laptop. I never learned Linux in school or any training courses. ALL my knowledge is from Google...

However those knowledge are separate pieces. They are pretty much all about how to use a software or a command. I really need a book to learn it as an OS, which tells me what files are for what purpose, how the OS calls for process and how it manages it, ...etc, not just how to use it.

Thank you for any suggestions!
wanting to dig into linux and learn the how's and why's of the operating system, he gives the recommendation of what's basically man page reference material and 75% advertisement. "Linux in a Nutshell" doesn't contain any information about what files are for what purpose, by the way. it's pretty much the man pages with more detail, and a few other things ... I'm 99% sure it's not what you're looking for, you'll really be missing out if you purchase it. It's exactly "how to use it".

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Old 07-26-2009, 09:54 AM   #18
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I just read the last post you made, I'd apologize this time, I didn't realize you posted again ... I was looking at the private messaging and couldn't figure anything out, it's all public, the messages ... I'll have to check again ...
I'm not trying to act stupid or anything ... I would like to say something about it to onebuck personally also, because this seems very spammy and self-promotional. You're about to achieve "Guru" ranking with speedy self-promotion, it looks like.
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I don't blog that often. To date I have not had a blog! I do read some blogs but the composition along with grammar tends to turn me off. Add in spelling, netspeak or AOL type entries and you will loose me.

I work with the 'Slackware-Links' wiki. More than just SlackwareŽ links! This wiki has been a interesting creation. To date it requires a lot of my time. I do hope it provides useful tools, links and even GNU/Linux to the multiple users.

Those...

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Old 07-26-2009, 12:15 PM   #19
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Hi,
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How are you allowed to advertise in every single post?
I've seen so many posts by you now, and every every every single one is an advertisement. Every one is one sentence of information and then a link to your site.
I'm going to say this once. The links are in my sig to avail users that I respond too. There is nothing personal for me, the 'Slackware-Links' is a wiki on LQ for all users here on LQ. No personal gain but that for users that wish to have varied links that will aid them in their endeavor with GNU/Linux. If you find that offensive then report it and take it up with 'jeremy'. I've been within the LQ rules. Have you?

I tend to keep my response terse and if you find that offensive then skip it. No one is forcing you to read my post(s). I find that if you give too much information at times then things will get complicated. It is the intent of this site to provide the means to the poster to aid themselves along with the assistance of the helpers.

If your angered with my current response then you'll have to work that out too.
 
Old 07-26-2009, 12:29 PM   #20
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Hi,

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I just read the last post you made, I'd apologize this time, I didn't realize you posted again ... I was looking at the private messaging and couldn't figure anything out, it's all public, the messages ... I'll have to check again ...
I'm not trying to act stupid or anything ... I would like to say something about it to onebuck personally also, because this seems very spammy and self-promotional. You're about to achieve "Guru" ranking with speedy self-promotion, it looks like.


Blog entry:
Apparently you don't abide by the rules here on LQ. Why are you quoting a blog entry? You have a problem with it? I don't blog. I do maintain the LQ Wiki 'Slackware-Links'. Your problem with my promoting a wiki that serves the LQ community is?

My response to you about my ranking is that I have been here for quite a long period. Not just a few days ago and I participate daily. I hope in that period that I have been able to aid more than a few. If you feel that I'm responding to gain a ranking. That's a big pot of nothing but bull$hit!

BTW, we are drifting from the OP and this will be my last response to you concerning this petty issue of yours. If you want then open a PM or even a 'General' thread to your concerns.

My one question to you is how much have you contributed to the LQ and GNU/Linux community? I continue to contribute in my way.
 
Old 07-26-2009, 12:53 PM   #21
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Hello,

First of all, I also am a new member on LinuxQuestions. In my opinion it's one of the greatest sites ever, where one can encounter a solution to any problem with the assistence of members of the community. I have been on other forums also in the past and none of them have such a high level of all-over Linux knowledge. Personally I couldn't agree more with Gary. If a user finds the signature insulting then don't read the post. Again, in my opinion we are not here to criticize eacht other.

It's thanks to all the members, more specific the Senior Members and Gurus, that LinuxQuestions is what it is today.

So my personal note: Keep up the good work, guys!

Kind regards,

Eric
 
Old 07-26-2009, 01:28 PM   #22
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Shall we stop ranting and come to the main topic, please?! Chigurh8 please contact onebuck over PM

I go with the guy who suggested Sobell's book. Am reading it at present.

Once you finish that book may be a linux programming book will help you. At the end of the day if you really want to know an OS inside out then you got to program.

Also, may be ESR's suggestions are of some help: http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/Reading-List-HOWTO/b80.html esp. the 'Ancestors of Linux' and 'The Linux Kernel' sections. Just buy the latest version!
 
Old 07-26-2009, 09:44 PM   #23
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Not to keep something going here, and I do apologize if it seemed like an attack of some kind, I was pointing out it appears that way. I just started using this site not long ago and I have constantly seen these, and was pointing it out. I will avoid arguments, I will not PM or open another thread.
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My one question to you is how much have you contributed to the LQ and GNU/Linux community? I continue to contribute in my way.
I have only been using Linux since early this year. I have absolutely no plans of using Windows again. I am spending very much time learning about Linux. I do care, and would help, but do not know enough. If knowing links is knowing enough, I do have links in my signature now, and I would say yeah, I do know enough. Now I will be helping, if links are a great help. I have only been using Linux since around March. I have been trying to get away from Windows for some time. I know a lot of C programming, some C++, some assembly, quite a bit about PERL, I can use fdisk and GParted, etc. and customize the layout of my partitions well, I have read a lot of the iptables documentation, I have been experimenting with Gentoo, Ubuntu, Slackware, Linux From Scratch, Fedora, openSUSE, tried BLAG and didn't like it. Installed all the rest of these and experimented with them with the exception of Linux From Scratch, which I did not have any problems whatsoever installing - but decided I have better things to do with my time for the time being. I have been helping when possible and trying to ask constructive questions and give answer that I know for a fact I can answer, instead of pretending I can answer them here and in linuxforums.org.
The links in my signature are not a result of your links and your signature. They are just some of the sites that are very good, off the top of my head. I'm pointing out that what I instantly took of your posts since I've been here is constant advertisement and a rushed (fake) sort of knowledge. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong and would apologize. But I hate when people do that sort of thing.
I was attending college for software development a handful of years back, but changed my mind and did not want to get ahead of myself, and wanted to focus on other things and for God's sake, get away from Windows (which I've been planning on since I purchased my first computer.) I consider myself very humble when it comes to my intelligence, and I'm far from a mathematician, but I am not mentally challenged or anything.
I would much rather have computers as my personal (hobby?). From Linux Journal:
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I just voted "I don't do nuttin' eeter, but at least I feel bad about it.
No offense, but if you want me to rush to learn more and help the community more by paying to make a site with personal opinions and links, let me know.
 
Old 07-26-2009, 09:46 PM   #24
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On the original topic of the OP, I have myself been wanting to learn about the how's and why's of Linux, and have been searching for books. I looked through a lot of Linux in a Nutshell on Google books, and it is precisely - in the words of the OP - "how to use it". I assumed you didn't care about what book you posted, as long as it was on your site and it gave you a reason to post your link (which is in your signature the entire time) twice more.
Now I'm done, and back on the original topic.
Instead of posting them constantly, I'll leave them in my signature and hope someone happens to notice they're there when they read my posts instead of having to remind them of my signature because they happen to use forums without reading.

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Old 07-26-2009, 10:45 PM   #25
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Some great books there thanks.
 
Old 07-26-2009, 10:52 PM   #26
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Check out the Unix file system, BTW, on the web or book. It has important commands and 'knowledge on how to use the file' that most Linux instructions don't mention. Dunno why.
 
Old 07-27-2009, 02:07 PM   #27
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cough splutter

A whole lot of bitching going on. In my limited experience there is now easy and definitive linux book out there only a number of slants. Not even shortcut keys have the same meaning. Still look out for Kier Thomas's efforts.
 
Old 07-28-2009, 08:04 AM   #28
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Not to say that every site that is personal opinions and links is a bad site, I was just pointing out that if I wanted to help the Linux community, I'd either wait until I had good information to post, or think of something else to do.
 
Old 07-28-2009, 03:42 PM   #29
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... so let's get back to topic...

As a summary,

Jay73 recommended A Practical Guide to Red Hat Linux by Sobell and Saivin agreed. I found this link about the book. Could you please confirm if this is the one you suggested? Thank you! http://www.sobell.com/RH4/index.html

Chigurh8, I think that's a great idea to leave the links in the signature. You also could put brief description on those links like "useful links of Linux resources" so we know that they are not spams but helpful websites.

Thank you for all who left kind advice!
 
Old 07-28-2009, 05:29 PM   #30
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Actually, what I had in mind is this: http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Guid...8815958&sr=8-2
But like I said in my previous post, this is very much geared towards the command line. As such, it can be used with almost any distribution.
I have not read Sobell's Guide to Red Hat but if it is anything like this Practical Guide to Ubuntu and the book referred to already, I would definitely recommend it if you need a book that focuses on the Red Hat type of distro. Although Sobell's books are very well-written (practical, to the point, not over your head), don't expect them to cover everything, though. You will still benefit from reading the guides on tldp and other sites, if only because Linux has not stopped evolving since these books were published (then again, if you are still using Red Hat 4, those recent innovations may not be all that relevant to you).
 
  


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