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Old 11-08-2008, 11:29 PM   #1
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VirtualBox/VirtualMachine vs. Cedega ? How's cedga work.


Hi,

I'm moving from xp pro to Linux Freespire, NEWBIE.

How exactly does "Cedega" work ? I've read you pay like a monthly subscription fee. But I'm looking at cnr.com and they have 2 diff prices, 1 for $60 and 1 for premium price $44.95. I hope I can just buy it, install it and never be forced see cedega again until I want.

What is your view on VirtualBox/VirtualMachine vs. Cedega ?

http://www.virtualbox.org/ - virtual box
http://www.cnr.com - cedega

From what I've read I was thinking of VirtualBox/VM but wouldn't I have install xp in the VirtualBox/VirtualMachine and then activate it ?

And might it run slower ?

And would that give viruses a point of attack ?
or
since the virtual box/VirtualMachinewould be within the linux enviroment would it then not be vulnerable to viruses ?

I am sick of windows. If possible I want nothing to do with their inferior, STOLEN from the guy Bill made a deal with and therefore cursed OS, so I'm looking at cedga.

thanks.

PS: i looked at the similar posts but none touch this.

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Old 11-09-2008, 01:56 AM   #2
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The difference in real life between cedega/wine and virtualbox/other VM's is:

You still need a valid license to run windows in a VM

There is no or rudimentary 3d in VM's

Viruses should only affect the VM but there have been ways to get to the host systems.
Of course the OS within the VM is subject to any malware there is for it.

You might want to poke around a bit here for general info about wine (cedega is build on wine) and even consider using wine or crossover instead of cedega at least for testing because it costs 0,--$$
 
Old 11-09-2008, 04:51 AM   #3
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Thanks for the wine link, crashmeister.

I mainly wanted to run dreamweaver mx 2004, dw CS3, fireworks cs3 and the call of duty games on freespire and the Wine AppDB says it will do it.

Freespire or linspire is not listed with the distros as one that will work with wine, but since freespire is based on ubuntu and debian if I get wine for one of those distros do ya think it will work ?

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Old 11-09-2008, 06:00 AM   #4
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before spending money on Cedega you may want to try
playonlinux
and / or
dosbox

both work really well
 
Old 11-09-2008, 06:15 AM   #5
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Cedega's out, I'm looking at wine, to run dw 2004mx, cs3, fireworks and cod.

I'll check playonlinux and dosbox. Thanks watcher69b.
 
Old 11-10-2008, 05:06 AM   #6
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I'd just try the Debian or Ubuntu build.
Dunno how close freespire follows debian and Ubuntu.

Also give winetricks a look - helps a lot with the setup.
 
Old 11-11-2008, 08:02 AM   #7
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I was thinking of debian as a maybe for latter. I just got the freespire CD yesterday, ran the live part of it and played around w/it for awhile, and it is reeeaaal cool.
It seen ny sound which is onboard, my x2 cpu. It didn't see my gefroce or modem.

I have a sata drive coming from newegg so hopefully after the install it will see all the hardware, if not at least a file directory will be down so I can work on it.

Thanks for the winetricks plug.

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Old 11-11-2008, 09:04 AM   #8
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I meant the ubuntu or debian build for wine if there is none for freespire - not the distro.

Modem probably wont work if it is a winmodem.There are drivers for some.
Geforce should be ok.Nvidia graphics normally work prwtty well with Linux but I'd put up a new thread if you run into trouble with it.
 
Old 11-11-2008, 10:01 AM   #9
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ok..."ubuntu or debian build for wine"...gotcha.

It's a us robotics modem; Is "winmodem" a brand name or a software modem ??

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Old 11-11-2008, 11:56 AM   #10
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Winmodems are modems that depend on windows to work (could call it softmodem I suppose).

There are workarounds for them but I really don't know anything about it since I never use a modem.
I assume you are talking about a dialup modem not a adsl modem.
 
Old 11-11-2008, 02:19 PM   #11
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yeah dial-up for now.

Latter satellite broadband.
 
Old 11-12-2008, 01:03 AM   #12
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Avoid satellite if there is any way to get a cabled connection.
The latency kills stuff like voip.
 
Old 11-12-2008, 06:19 AM   #13
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yeah, i figured there would be big latency because of the reviews i read and so many people complaining. There is no cable or DSL here in this one horse town in the sticks.

What has me thinking - see i use the net to learn web development now, my brother is an aircraft mechanic and does inspections and other on the side apart from his JOB so we are building a website pertaining to aircraft stuff - so i will be using the web intensively every day, no gaming or voip. There is a 5GB cap on the usage (then you're knocked back to dial-up speed for awhile) to do with the so called "Fair Access Policy" so hughes net wants to herd me into a contract for this broadband that may be crap for me.

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Old 11-12-2008, 01:00 PM   #14
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You better check that contract - with a 5 gig cap there's probably a provision in there that you can't run a ftp or webserver for any purposes with the contract.

I'd look into hosting.Is much faster,cheap,has more bandwidth and you don't have to worry about attacks.
 
Old 11-13-2008, 06:16 AM   #15
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We have a host with our joomla site on it, working on it. The satellite would just be my access to the internet.
 
  


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