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Old 02-12-2008, 10:28 AM   #1
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Lightbulb Virtual machine recommendations wanted!


- what virtual machines are best to use inside a main Linux install? By best I mean how configurable are they, and can you install any other OSs on them or are they limited to only some types of OS.

- also, what Linux versions install just fine on Virtual PC - it includes Linux in the drop-down menu but I haven't had a chance to install any of them yet (cause, um, I don't have it myself cause my computer is so vintage).
 
Old 02-12-2008, 12:39 PM   #2
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what virtual machines are best to use inside a main Linux install
VirtulBox is one of the best of the genre your probably interested in. However, there are many options for virtualization on linux. Check out this recent article for a good overview:

http://www.techthrob.com/tech/linux_virtualization.php

The software mentioned in the article is hardly exhaustive but it includes the main desktop type virtualization applications available in linux. Other linux virtualization technologies used more in enterprise/server settings include xen and kvm to name two.
 
Old 02-12-2008, 12:44 PM   #3
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If you only want to run other linux machines you may want to look at OpenVZ.
 
Old 02-12-2008, 01:57 PM   #4
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Hi,

I like VirtualBox but there are several available. This link and others are available from 'Slackware-Links' .
 
Old 02-12-2008, 03:20 PM   #5
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VMware Server gets my pick
 
Old 02-20-2008, 12:03 PM   #6
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Thanks for recommendations.

Has anyone tried running virtual machines within virtual machines? I don't need to do this, it just seemed like a funny thing to play about with - see how many nested virtuals could be run.
 
Old 05-22-2008, 04:59 PM   #7
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Thanks for recommendations.

Has anyone tried running virtual machines within virtual machines? I don't need to do this, it just seemed like a funny thing to play about with - see how many nested virtuals could be run.
Yes I have ...running windows xp pro with virtualbox (the only 1 i can get to work)...i have 1 gig ram spilt half to xp pro then half to virtual machine...then splitting that half again to run virtual inside the virtual computer lol....why am i trying to do this is cos im trying to get a linux version of virtual box to work (i cant for the life of me i cant get virtual box to work on linux host)either has driver problem (vbox drvr)or user issues which i cant fix...

anyay happy virtual worlds to you...
 
Old 05-22-2008, 05:28 PM   #8
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I like Virtualbox. I've gotten Vista (for some reason my network card does NOT work in Vista), XP, Server 2008 and Open Solaris all to work.

Brandon
 
Old 05-24-2008, 10:03 PM   #9
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I like Virtualbox. I've gotten Vista (for some reason my network card does NOT work in Vista), XP, Server 2008 and Open Solaris all to work.

Brandon
a)is vista the host or the guest?...... b)vista installed on old machine or new 1? ....reason - vista doesnt like old hardware installing vista on older computer ie doesnt come with a new purschase ..has issues alot of them mainly with printers.....if you want fully functionality out of vista u need minimum of 2gig ram preferred size is 4gig of ram this doesnt include your applications you might use in it...

if vista is guest... then ur network card setting on host and vbox need to be checked....in vbox setting network try a)ticking enable network adapter,mke sure it says nat in attach to, then ticking cable if u have cable to connect network.....b)if you have encryption or closed network you will have to manually configure the setup....

c) if wireless (providing your wireless adapter is recognised) and your not running encrypted wireless then you should be able to connect to any open network....
d)if your wireless is encrypted or closed then you will have to manually setup the configuration.
 
Old 06-04-2008, 06:51 PM   #10
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could try my VUPPY

Vbox and Dosbox from menu...maybe sytem dependant but its only 133megs full operating system based on puppy 4
 
Old 06-05-2008, 03:51 AM   #11
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Hi,

I would give my vote to VMWare too. I have never used anything other than VMWare so can't comment on VirtualBox etc, but I have used VMWare Player, Workstation and Server and have always been very happy with it.

I currently use VMWare Server 1.0.5 on Mandriva 2008.0 and have no problems using it every day for work running Windows XP Professional, XP Home, Server 2003 as well as a number of Linux distros.

Ben.
 
Old 06-05-2008, 04:08 AM   #12
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Qemu/kqemu is faster than VirtualBox (except for graphics when virtualbox additions are installed on the guest). qemu runs from the command line and can be scripted. There also are GUI for qemu. Also, it has full support for USB. It is GPL, it is simple to use, it is full featured and it emulates many processors (including ppc, i386, x86_64, ARM and more).
 
Old 06-06-2008, 06:42 AM   #13
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I administer several linux servers, many of which also host VMWare virtual machines. We're just using the freely-available (and community-supported) VMWare server.

It's very flexbile, customizable, and it's been around a bit longer than most of the others. Gets my vote

I have to admit that I've not tried some of the others mentioned here yet--haven't had a need to, and management is very happy with the reliability of our present config.

VMWare Workstation is much better than Server, if you're sandbox testing and want the ability for several snapshots from which to choose, and performance is more oriented to workstation/non-server as well, so it's pretty nifty. VMware Workstation 6.5 Beta is free for signup--I recommend checking it out. Lots of recent improvements, including better DirectX support for XP etc.

For server use, though, VMware Server works great, and is free, to boot. There's also a beta program for VMware Server2, but I've found it to be a bit flaky in comparison to the rock-solid 1.0x series.
 
Old 06-06-2008, 10:08 AM   #14
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Another vote for VirtualBox...

edit: review already posted

Last edited by netcrawl; 06-06-2008 at 10:10 AM.
 
Old 06-10-2008, 10:38 AM   #15
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I got a new machine recently, so I'm going to be trying out varying OSs in varying virtual-machines depending on what I can get downloaded at college....

what I can say is that Suse 10.1 doesn't work exactly as it should using the VM workstation, but that is without the latest update to the VM-w, which may fix the issues. Also that is from using XP Pro as a host.

The ought-to-be-splendid-news that came with my new builds BIOS is that it has a selectable boot loader, so it means not only can you be specific about what boots first, you can select the boot order of your hdd's (eg - without even using GRUB) -

I've been trying to buy Suse 10.3 from Linux Emporium but they don't answer me......hence I say 'ought to' above because I haven't had a chance to test it out yet (it must work though, cause I've seen sites where other people discuss using that feature); I don't want to install 10.1 on my brand new unformatted WD Caviar because it lacks the yacc files needed to do any configures and installs. I don't know where to get those files, so was asking the linux store if they are included in 10.3.....

does anybody know for sure that 10.3 desktop has the yacc and related files? I don't feel rich enough to fork out for Enterprise which likely will have those features.

(I have other Linux builds, but I definitely want a Suse 10.x on it's own hdd; and 10.3 has that ubersmart 3D desktop cube thingy too....)

'scuse my blabbing here; I should move some of this to a more relevant sub-forum. Too busy justnow.
 
  


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