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Old 02-24-2002, 01:38 AM   #1
odyssey13
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okay, I'm just about to install linux, but I am having a few problems. First of all, Everyone in my house uses their internet through a hub and all I know is that Windows seems to configure all that for me. If I switch to Linux, how will I know how to set up m,y server? Should I take down everything windows says in "network properties" and just try to copy as much of that as possible in to linux, or will it not work if everyone else in the house still uses windows? Also, are MS office documents compatible with kOffice or Star office? cause if they aren't then I'm quite fucked in that respect. I won't be ocming back to this page cause I'll forget the address, so please feel free to email me at odyssey13@yahoo.com any help you can offer, like what networking information to take down and where in windows it can be found would be wonderful. Thanks a lot in advance.
-Harley
 
Old 02-24-2002, 04:41 AM   #2
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It's so rude when people just demand information and expect you to go out of your way to email them with it. pah
 
Old 02-24-2002, 08:20 AM   #3
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You need to know anything with an IP address, i.e. gateways, DNS, static IP (if you are using it) and so on. Basically, if it has a number, write it down.

Some Word documents are, some aren't. MS has a habit of changing their document format from version to version in arbitrary fashions.
 
Old 02-24-2002, 11:54 AM   #4
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well, kewpie, I never ASKED you to go out of your way to email me a response. If you don't feel like succumbing to my "demands" then just ignore my post. It's not like I'll die if I don't get a response immediately. As I said, I have not yet installed Linux, so there is no real urgency, but the sooner the better. At least there was SOMEONE considerate enough to offer help. I'm thankful for TacKat's help and am happy that I at least got an UNPRESSURED response.
 
Old 02-24-2002, 12:15 PM   #5
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Quote:
Originally posted by odyssey13
well, kewpie, I never ASKED you to go out of your way to email me a response. If you don't feel like succumbing to my "demands" then just ignore my post. It's not like I'll die if I don't get a response immediately. As I said, I have not yet installed Linux, so there is no real urgency, but the sooner the better. At least there was SOMEONE considerate enough to offer help. I'm thankful for TacKat's help and am happy that I at least got an UNPRESSURED response.
Actually, we try to make this site helpful for others as well, that some may have the same problem as you do. If you asked to be emailed as well, that is fine as most post here to help others out in their problems and it gives information that is stored.
When you stated that you might never come back to this site, most don't like that idea and just reply to your post to help out so it helps out others with the same similiar problems you may have.
This site was designed to just post and reply, not email the person with the problem cause they are never coming back. You do have the option to have it auto email you when someone replies to your post.
Don't forget the Search option on the site as well, with over 50,000 posts, there is most likely a chance your question has been answered before.

Thanks,

-trickykid
 
Old 02-24-2002, 01:08 PM   #6
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Well said Trickykid!
That's the whole point, ain't it?
 
Old 02-24-2002, 09:07 PM   #7
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"When you stated that you might never come back to this site, most don't like that idea and just reply to your post to help out so it helps out others with the same similiar problems you may have."
What I meant was that I would never remember the address. I posted the message at like 2 or 2:30 AM so I was kinda tired and knew I would forget the address. What I didn't know was that it notifies you when replies are posted.
 
Old 02-26-2002, 12:06 PM   #8
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Okay, back to the original post now that we're all done being very polite: *burp!!!!*

Staroffice can save and juggle formats between the proprietary MS formats and a number of others. I haven't tried the new 6.0 candidate, just 5.2. I've heard a lot of FUD and scuttlebutt about it corrupting MS docs so that Office can't read them back. I have yet to have had this happen, and quite the opposite, it has opened some files that MSOffice claimed were garbage, then I've repaired them in staroffice and saved them back to their original format. Sounds awesome doesn't it?

Well, the tradeoff is that StarOffice is beautiful, so pretty in fact that your machine can do little but think of its beauty as it is running. S.O. is a resource pig, a big one, a hog almost.

I haven't tried Koffice, which is odd, because I've recently converted to the church of KDE as far as desktops go (Damn you, damn you Gnome! Sticky icky poo boring Blackbox!). As far as I remember it won't do the proprietary formats.

You said that your house runs on a hub... if there are multiple machines in the house, and your all sharing the same connection, stick your head into the hall and shout: "Are we all using DHCP?"

If the reply is yes, then this is going to be cake.

If the reply is no, then ask what the heck you are using.

If the reply is huh?, er... okay, escalate to stage 2.

What kind of connection do you have and with whom? DirectTVDSL and a few others provide you with a dummy router, that hub of which you speak may be a router-in-a-box typically marketed by linksys.

But back to important things... what distro are you going to go with?

Okay, that's enough blathering for now.

Cheers,

Finegan
 
Old 02-26-2002, 05:31 PM   #9
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Actually, you're right, it is a router... I mix the two up (is there a difference between a hub and a router?) And it IS linksys... I'm not too sure about the DHCP thing. I made a huge mistake because I didn't partition enough space for Linux (it is JUST enough and all I am left with are maybe 100 MB) so it runs slow as hell. I went with Mandrake, but I think I'm gonna format the partition, try again and install again keeping everything basic and small.
 
Old 02-26-2002, 05:43 PM   #10
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The basic difference between a router and a hub is that a hub just allows the traffic of all of those computers on the same LAN (local area network), as in those in your house, to be able to see one another, as long as the IPs they are assigned are all on the same subnet. The IPs in this case are assigned manually.

A router is much smarter, and that Linksys router runs off of DHCP, so if you are asked during the mandrake set-up process next time what type of connection you use, tell it dhcp. This little router takes dhcp requests (dynamic host configuration protocol), and automatically assigns your machine, or the windows boxes, an IP, by default one somewhere between 192.168.0.100 and 192.168.0.150, a pair of DNS servers; which are the machines of the world that translate domain names into the IPs so your computer can find them, and lastly, a gateway, the computer your machine has to communicate to that will forward your traffic on to the world. This router is also MASQ'ing, but I don't want to get ahead of myself. There are a million how-tos that explain the subtleties of TCP/IP and I'm probably over-simplifying to your dis-service.

Hopefully Mandrake will be polite and recognize your network card. If you cannot get an internet connection when you finally get it going, post here and there's a short list of things you can do so we can diagnose the problem.

Cheers,

Finegan
 
Old 02-26-2002, 08:14 PM   #11
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Well, finegan, I thank you for your help, and I already DID install Mandrake, and the internet works fine. It configured everything for me. Better than windows ever did, actually.
The only problem I have now is the excessively small partition resulting in decreased speed.
 
Old 02-26-2002, 09:48 PM   #12
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Originally posted by odyssey13
The only problem I have now is the excessively small partition resulting in decreased speed.
The partition size might not be the major culprit; there may be other things you can do to speed things up.

First, you can use the hdparm program to check and optimize your hard drive perfomance. There is a help file which can walk you through the process here.

Memory, memory, memory! How much physical RAM do you have, and how much space did you allocate to your swap partition ( or did you create a swap file instead?)

Lastly, Mandrake tends to install a lot of, um, stuff that you probably don't need. Running uneccesary background processes can really bog you down, and disabling them can free up precious resources. Mandrke has a sectiion in its Control Center where you can view and configure services; see if you can identify services/processes that might be candidates for the ax. Also, if you're running KDE as your desktop environment, you might want to with something less piggy. There are differing opinions about that, all of which have been expressed before; searching the archives for "destop environment" and "window manager" should get you some feedback on that.
 
Old 02-27-2002, 11:19 AM   #13
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Memory, memory, memory! How much physical RAM do you have, and how much space did you allocate to your swap partition ( or did you create a swap file instead?)
Well put! Actually, post back what the actually specs on your box are.

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Originally posted by DMR
Lastly, Mandrake tends to install a lot of, um, stuff that you probably don't need.
DMR, you're being much too civilised. Just say it: Mandrake loves to install mountains of useless crap!

Like DMR said, the only ones that will truly slow your box down are the processes running all the time. If you open a shell, xterm, konsole, whatever, and type: 'top' ('q' to get out of top when you're done), in the top left-hand will be the number of processes running. If it beats 70, then Mandy definately has you running an extra ton of goop.

Cheers,

Finegan
 
Old 04-19-2002, 03:13 AM   #14
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Question Linksys Router setup

I was reading the post about the linksys router setup and Mandrake. Can anyone help me with the internet connection for my router. I have Mandrake installed (8.1) but it wont connect to the net.
 
Old 04-19-2002, 03:30 AM   #15
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Knowing your set up might help...

DSL
calbe
oc192 (hehe)

Is your NIC recognized?
Is it up?
netstat -a =?
ifconfig =?

Hardware?
 
  


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