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Old 08-03-2011, 10:31 PM   #1
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(USB) Cannot install ANY Linux....


Alight. I downloaded a few distros and even tried different usb from LiLi, ubuntu universal installer, Unetbootin, ultraISO, fedora live usb creater, and even wubi.

I am that newbie that asked about whats a good distro to start with but here's the chance to help me get started!

let me give my system spec again, it's a netbook Samsung NF210 at 1.5 ghz and 1gb ram and will be dualbooting with a win7.
my win7 however is a copy I downloaded online customized for netbook use. and since I havent been able to install ANY Linux OS (ubuntu 10.10/11.04, openSUSE 11.04, Fedora 15, PingEee, LPS1.2.2) I am starting to suspect it have something to do with the win7 I currently am using.
I googled on NF210 and distros and didnt see any signs of a hardware problem.

I know how to boot from USB and I set it to load before C drive.
When I run the USB install with ultraISO it gave me in DOS upon boot up:

"No systemdisk. Booting from harddisk.
Start booting from USB device..."

With other Linux USB installers it's simply just a blank black screen with underscore blinking and nothing happens.

From what I've gathered from google there are a few horror stories about compatibility with win7 in dualboot attempts that resulted in reformatting of the both OS. But problems in installing is almost unheard of.

I've been on this for 2 days now and out of ideas.. Please somebody enlighten me any helps great appreciated.
Thanks.

edit: it's a win7 ultimate edition

Last edited by himegoto; 08-03-2011 at 10:35 PM. Reason: add info
 
Old 08-03-2011, 10:52 PM   #2
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my win7 however is a copy I downloaded online customized for netbook use.
Unless you got the Win 7 from Microsoft or a legitimate Microsoft reseller, it is likely pirate software and all bets are off.
 
Old 08-03-2011, 10:56 PM   #3
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Unless you got the Win 7 from Microsoft or a legitimate Microsoft reseller, it is likely pirate software and all bets are off.
I have a genuine copy. I got that because that is more optimized for netbooks, however the battery consumption and speed didn't make me happy.
I could roll back to my original copy or even a win XP, but I need to know it indeed have something to do with the installation problems I am getting.
 
Old 08-03-2011, 10:59 PM   #4
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Wait nevermind, it just registered you were talking about a netbook.

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Old 08-04-2011, 10:09 AM   #5
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If you're booting from USB, it doesn't matter what you have on the HDD.
Back to your problem, you first need to know if your USB drive is ok: check if it can boot some other computer. If it can, the problem lies probably in some BIOS option on your pc; if not, you need to create a working USB boot drive...
 
Old 08-04-2011, 12:13 PM   #6
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If you're booting from USB, it doesn't matter what you have on the HDD.
Back to your problem, you first need to know if your USB drive is ok: check if it can boot some other computer. If it can, the problem lies probably in some BIOS option on your pc; if not, you need to create a working USB boot drive...
Thanks. the USB is okay. I used it to boot the win7 currently using.
my BIOS is up to date... and I set the flash drive to boot first. what other options could I look into?
Dont really understand the last part... anymore hints?
 
Old 08-04-2011, 12:18 PM   #7
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Strong suggestion:

Please re-master your USB boot image with UNetBootIn:

http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/

http://www.pendrivelinux.com/using-u...ive-usb-linux/

If you encounter problems, please let us know

a) exactly what you tried (including UnetBootIn version, distro name/version and the steps you took)

b) exactly what went wrong

I realize you already tried it once, but it's worth trying again. Let's focus on getting UNetBootin working.

Let us know how it goes

Last edited by paulsm4; 08-04-2011 at 12:23 PM.
 
Old 08-04-2011, 02:03 PM   #8
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Strong suggestion:

Please re-master your USB boot image with UNetBootIn:

http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/

http://www.pendrivelinux.com/using-u...ive-usb-linux/

If you encounter problems, please let us know

a) exactly what you tried (including UnetBootIn version, distro name/version and the steps you took)

b) exactly what went wrong

I realize you already tried it once, but it's worth trying again. Let's focus on getting UNetBootin working.

Let us know how it goes
Thanks for staying with me
I got it to work with unetbootin finally! When I used it it stuck in extracting one file so long that I just thought it hanged. Pretty sure the other installers didnt work though :P

There's another problem however.
When I am about to install the PingEee distro it gave me an error

No root file system:
"No root file system is defined.
Please correct this from the partitioning menu"

I have a 250GB HDD and made them into C (20gb for win7), D (100GB for storage), and E (20GB, going to install Linux on)

In the Ping Eee installation menu allocating drive space it gave me 3 options:
- Install Ping Eee alongside win7
- Replace win7 with Ping Eee
- Something else (create or resize partitions yourself)

I chose the 3rd one, selected my E drive, formatted it into NTFS, and that error occured.

Never ending bumpy road...
 
Old 08-04-2011, 03:33 PM   #9
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Try installing a different distro...

... and, more importantly, try a "live cd" first.

Linux Mint (among several others) is an excellent candidate:

http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/390
 
Old 08-04-2011, 03:53 PM   #10
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No root file system:
"No root file system is defined.
Please correct this from the partitioning menu"
http://www.askdavetaylor.com/2-blog-...stall-pic7.png

Notice where in the image it says mount point. You need to type in a / to define root.


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I chose the 3rd one, selected my E drive, formatted it into NTFS, and that error occured.
NTFS file system is not a Linux file system . You need to format your partition as Ext3 or Ext4.

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Old 08-04-2011, 04:00 PM   #11
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himegoto -

Again, I strongly encourage you to try a "live distro" first.

This will allow you to familiarize yourself with the distro...

... WITHOUT risking the Windows you've already successfully installed on your PC.

I would also encourage you to try something like Ubuntu, Fedora or Linux Mint before trying Ping Eee. I don't have anything against Ping Eee. I'm just not familiar with it. And I want to make sure your first experience with a Linux distro is a POSITIVE experience

IMHO .. PSM
 
Old 08-04-2011, 08:52 PM   #12
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Thanks rokytnji and paul.
Yes as you can see Im not familiar with Linux at all.. I'll try to reformat the drive into Ex3 or 4 and give it a go. It's worth mentioning when I chose the first option the installation asks me to partition the whole 250GB shared with windows 7. While of course my windows 7 is installed in a 20GB partition space. So thats weird to me. Does a normal installation of any Linux OS requires splitting up the harddrives (different "\")?

Thanks for the link. I know haha thats what Im kinda worried now. I have Fedora15 will try it but one more attempt at installing the PingEee with Ex3 first..
 
Old 08-04-2011, 09:22 PM   #13
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I found another link that may also help out beginners like me. http://thpc.info/dual/win7/dualboot_...d_on_win7.html

My question now is, I already partitioned 3 disks on my 250GB HDD so I cannot split them any further. I deleted my drive E (20GB) for the PingEee. (I know, just one more try)
Which option should I choose on the create partition screen:

Type for the new partition - primary or logical
New partition size... - 20973
Location of the new partition - Beginning or End
Use as - Ext4
Mount point - /
 
Old 08-04-2011, 11:39 PM   #14
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Type for the new partition - primary or logical
Not knowing how many primary partitions you already have. I would go with logical as a safe bet. Only 4 primary partitions allowed on a drive.

I agree also with paulsm4 post
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Again, I strongly encourage you to try a "live distro" first.

This will allow you to familiarize yourself with the distro...

... WITHOUT risking the Windows you've already successfully installed on your PC.

I would also encourage you to try something like Ubuntu, Fedora or Linux Mint before trying Ping Eee. I don't have anything against Ping Eee. I'm just not familiar with it. And I want to make sure your first experience with a Linux distro is a POSITIVE experience

IMHO .. PSM
Running live off of a cd will give you some practice running the distro that you like best and will not harm your Windows install, (as long as you don`t mount the windows partition and erase it with gparted or something similar), which you should have no need to do running a live session.
 
Old 08-04-2011, 11:52 PM   #15
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But Im on the netbook.. no CD drive
 
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