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Old 06-11-2009, 08:36 PM   #1
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upgrade from Fedora 5 / btw:I have no way to make ISO


I'm in a catch 22. I have fedora 5 running on my machine. There seems to be no way to upgrage it to a level that is still supported.

I have no way to make ISO disks. My burner is on this machine, and it isn't working any more.

I wouldn't mind completely reinstalling over this fedora 5. I have nothing of importance on the computer.

Is there any way to do a fresh install of any version of Linux without havning to burn any ISO disks?
 
Old 06-11-2009, 08:39 PM   #2
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USB is always an option, You could do a network install perhaps.

In this case, if you can boot from USB go for that. If not, you could go for a Gentoo Stage 3 sort of thing
 
Old 06-11-2009, 08:42 PM   #3
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Hello, welcome
we need more info on your machine and whether or not you can boot from usb and if it has a floppy too?
so, des it have usb port?
can it boot from usb?
does it have floppy drive?
 
Old 06-11-2009, 09:43 PM   #4
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It does have a floppy drive, I can boot from it. I've never used it. I'd have to buy floppy disks.
The bios doesn't seem to have an option to boot from usb. That's a shame. I have a usb thumb drive I could use.

jamescondron: I'm reading the handbook for Gentoo. I don't see a solution usb, floppy or otherwise. I suppose if I read it more thoroughly I would.

linus72: I went to your website. That looks really cool. I'd be interested in seeing what your platform has to offer. I have a few older machines that need something "light-weight".
 
Old 06-11-2009, 09:49 PM   #5
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Gentoo can be installed via something it calls 'a stage 3 install'. This is made up of two tarballs, one which is the basic File System Hierarchy, one which is portage, which is the Package Management stuff (Though you may realise this is something of a misnomer). Basically, you set up a partition, un tar the stage three tarball onto it, then untar the portage tarball ontop of that and theres (more or less) your new set up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentoo_Linux#Installation explains it better
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/ is the actual Gentoo handbook.

Of course, you could create an image of another linux box you have and copy that across and untar it, its all up to you, go with what you feel
 
Old 06-11-2009, 10:25 PM   #6
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ok, also,
you can use plop bootmanager floppy to boot usb
use "plpbt.img" or "plpbtin.img"
plpbt just tries to boot from the floppy
plpbtin installs plop to your mbr(easily removed too)

get a clean floppy and copy/paste this into terminal

fdformat /dev/fd0
mkfs -t msdos /dev/fd0

that formats it
then put either above onto floppy using dd
example plpbtin.img is in /home on your hd
it would be
dd if=/home/plpbtin.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=1440k

then pop that in and install to mbr, option 1
reboot with usb inserted, choose usb
if it doesn't boot first time try again, reboot
someties I have to reboot 2x

anyway what computer is this?
it's specs?

I have a netbootcd usb which can do this-

4-NetBootCD-3.0-USB

Also features Tinycore-1.3rc3/1.3 with kexec support( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kexec ) and also great wallpapers!
The Tinycore part is similar to 1.4.2 above with apps(tce) installed-basically a "mini-rescue" USB as it has gparted/partimage/photorec,etc.
NetbootCD can Net-install various versions of all Major Distro's-
* Ubuntu
* Debian GNU/Linux (standard and daily installers)
* Fedora
* openSUSE
* Mandriva Linux
* CentOS
* Slackware
o (note: for Slackware, you may need an alternative installation source, such as NFS or the hard drive)

NetbootCD also supports downloading and launching the latest version of the GRUB4DOS bootloader.

( http://multidistro.com/downloads/off...icialusbs.html )

just download that, put it on usb, set boot flag active using cfdisk or gparted
install syslinux with
syslinux -s /dev/sdxx
where xx is your usb device name (sda1,sdb1,sdf1,etc)
to find out, as root enter "fdisk -l" in terminal or
use "mount" while usb is mounted.

try that
 
Old 06-11-2009, 10:27 PM   #7
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oh, once you install a distro, lilo or grub will overwrite plop mbr, so it's cool
 
  


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