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Old 07-09-2006, 07:01 PM   #1
|TN|Kyl3
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Unshore of what bootmanager to use and what order for my partitions


Hello,
I am setting up my laptop with: FC5, ubuntu, Windows XP MCE(PRO) and Windows Vista
I have a 100gb hardrive and i am unshore how to do everything.
I am planning on having:
  • 20gb - FC5
  • 20gb - Ubunto
  • 20GB - Windows XP MCE(PRO)
  • 20gb - Windows Vista
  • 20GB - Swap partition
But i am unshore of what bootmanager to use and what order to put these partitions
Any suggestions??

EDIT:
I looked around this forum for a bit and found this post: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...d.php?t=462304
Would it be possible to have a partition with all my documents and stuff on. But with windows xp using it as My Documents??

Thanks,

Kyl3

Last edited by |TN|Kyl3; 07-09-2006 at 07:15 PM.
 
Old 07-09-2006, 07:33 PM   #2
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I recently partitioned a 300GB hard drive for similar purposes. Please read that for other ideas and specifics.

However you should know the following:
- There are only 4 possible primary partitions, however 1 can be extended with multiple logical partitions. Hence 4 pri -OR- 3 pri + 1 ext.
- Windows should always come first and typically be on a primary partition.
- Swap shouldn't need to exceed 2 times your physical RAM, even the same size as your RAM should be fine.
- Windows will always rewrite the boot loader and MBR (master boot record).
- Ubuntu will also rewrite the boot loader and MBR, Fedora gives an option
- You should try to have a shared partition between the different linux, ie. /home
- Windows will format to NTFS which is only read (and very restrictive write), hence you might want a FAT32 data partition to share between linux and windows


My personal recommendation, 100 billion bytes = 93 GB

pri 1: windows xp - 20GB
pri 2: blank NTFS - vista (beta, whatever) - 20GB
pri 3: blank FAT32 (or NTFS) - windows/linux shared data - 6GB - optional
extended
log 1: fedora core 5 ("/") - 20GB
log 2: ubuntu ("/1") - 20GB
log 3: EXT3 - linux shared ("/home" or "/opt") - 6GB - optional
log 4: swap - 1 GB

(log 1 and 2 can be swapped in order)

Install in this order: windows xp, windows vista, FC5, ubuntu
In the end grub from ubuntu will run on the MBR and load all windows and linuxes. I have no idea how Vista/whatever will work. XP should be okay.

There are configurations to reconfigure grub to load through the NTLDR.

However, my guess is that you're a bit of a novice, so a great deal of trial and error will be involved. Do some more research and make sure you make backups and take lots of NOTES!!!
 
Old 07-09-2006, 07:40 PM   #3
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Okay thanks for the help
I was planning on using that swap partition for my main documents and stuff so it could easily be shared between different os
With my previous experiances with windows vista beta the boot loader usually takes over and once i put windows xp boot loader or grub back on it all messes up :S
And if i was to do it like that im not quite shore how to make the /home shared between FC5 and ubuntu? Is it quite easy?
 
Old 07-10-2006, 10:46 AM   #4
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Here is how i am goning to do things:

pri 1: NTFS - windows xp - 20GB(C:/)
pri 2: blank NTFS - Files and junk. Eg. pictures, music..) - 60GB(W:/)
pri 3: blank FAT32 - windows/linux shared data - 6GB - optional
extended
log 1: fedora core 5 ("/") - 15GB
log 2: ubuntu ("/1") - 10GB
log 3: EXT3 - linux shared ("/home" or "/opt") - 10GB
log 4: swap - 1 GB

Installation order: Windows XP, FC5 and then Ubuntu

Here is what i am stuck on:
- Linux shared ("/home"), How exactly do i set this up?
- (W:/) I want ot be able to use this in Linux FC5 and Ubuntu is it possible? I renember my old Slackware was able to read NTFS but my FC4 couldn't. Does FC5 and Ubuntu read Ntfs??

Is this a good idea to do everything like that?
 
Old 07-10-2006, 10:52 AM   #5
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For a shared /home you create a partition and call it /home. Simple as that.

Whether your distro can read NTFS depends on whether that has been compiled into the kernel. I know that Ubuntu does, can't say about FC5 but if not you simply recompile your kernel. You do need to make sure that NTFS partition is included in /etc/fstab.
 
Old 07-10-2006, 10:55 AM   #6
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Thanks just backing up and repartitioning then installing it all now
I will soon find out if FC5 can read NTFS
 
Old 07-10-2006, 03:32 PM   #7
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Recompiling the kernel is not necessary for reading ntfs in fc5.

If you install Fedora first, it will give you an option if you select create custom partitioning, create an EXT3 partition and select the mount point to be /home

btw: your numbers don't quite add up to 100GB.
 
Old 07-11-2006, 03:17 AM   #8
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Yeah i relised they didnt quite work when i was partitioning the PRI 2 Partition(W:/) Needs to be 31
Also i went to install FC5 and i downloading hte wrong version So im just re-downloading the righer one now.
 
Old 07-13-2006, 04:28 PM   #9
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Well ive done it all, Its all installed but, the boot menu(grub) loads ubuntu and windows just not FC5 it starts booting FC5 then get some error about root filesystem or something like that i will check soon and also im having problems installing my usb modem the drivers are installed but it wont recognise it or nothing happends and ive tried connecting with all the options of modems about 5 of them but it dont work
 
  


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