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Paris Heng 04-09-2008 03:34 AM

Unix Like Environment
 
Dear,

Which distro is the more on UNIX like environment? FreeBSD?... I never touch the UNIX like environment, other than Linux.

jschiwal 04-09-2008 05:58 AM

Technically, BSD is UNIX.

Paris Heng 04-09-2008 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jschiwal (Post 3115612)
Technically, BSD is UNIX.

Thank for the reply. So, the distro will be freeBSD. Dif freeBSD support online update like Ubuntu?

I have visit this site,

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/re...SO-IMAGES/7.0/

How to install? Which one to download? It is so many.

7.0-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso
7.0-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso
7.0-RELEASE-i386-disc2.iso
7.0-RELEASE-i386-disc3.iso
7.0-RELEASE-i386-docs.iso
7.0-RELEASE-i386-livefs.iso

ehawk 04-09-2008 01:11 PM

Both Freebsd and Solaris are technically unix.

http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/...jsp?cid=921933

PC-BSD and DesktopBSD are user-friendly versions of FreeBSD

http://www.pcbsd.org/

http://www.desktopbsd.net/

Online updating and installation of packages is very easy.

mrrangerman 04-09-2008 04:20 PM

Yea as been stated, the BSD's Solaris, AIX < for IBM,

marquardl 04-09-2008 04:21 PM

Gnu
 
What makes one environment be more UNIX then the other?
Most free Operating Systems have a lot of GNU tools running.
Are these less UNIX tools then the original AT&T code?

Previous messages on the thread seem to indicate that Linux is not so much UNIX. Most packages are available for both Linux and BSD flavours. Is Linux less UNIX because it has a different kernel and a different binary format? What about MacOSX then? It is based on FreeBSD and still has a different kernel and binary format.

I'm also uncertain as to what "technically UNIX" might mean? Is there also something that is "non-technically" UNIX? What can that be?

Isn't it more reasonable to separate systems based on POSIX-compliance instead of using UNIX as buzz-word and going into endless debates on which one is the "real" UNIX?

And by the way, OpenBSD hasn't been mentioned so far. That's my choice for the "real" UNIX: you need technical expertise even to understand the README file :-)

Just my opinion.
Bye,
M

Xen in Hardy

ehawk 04-09-2008 10:55 PM

This explains it fairly well:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix

Linux is "unix-like" and considered functional unix

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix-like

The Solaris and the BSDs are genetic unix. Solaris is fully compliant with the Single Unix Specification and so registered, so it is classified as trademarked unix:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_UNIX_Specification

Mac OS X meets also fully compliant and so registered.

FreeBSD aims for full compliance with the Single Unix Specification, but is not registered as such.

Linux was created to be as POSIX compliant as possible.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSIX

The Open Group's trademark on the "UNIX" name is what allows them to impose the Single Unix Specification registration requirement. They basically require a fee for the right to be branded "unix".

Paris Heng 04-09-2008 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paris Heng (Post 3115672)
Thank for the reply. So, the distro will be freeBSD. Dif freeBSD support online update like Ubuntu?

I have visit this site,

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/re...SO-IMAGES/7.0/

How to install? Which one to download? It is so many.

7.0-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso
7.0-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso
7.0-RELEASE-i386-disc2.iso
7.0-RELEASE-i386-disc3.iso
7.0-RELEASE-i386-docs.iso
7.0-RELEASE-i386-livefs.iso

After all, which .iso should i install?

ehawk 04-10-2008 12:32 AM

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/...k/install.html

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/ports.html

Paris Heng 04-10-2008 05:44 AM

I am asking which .iso i should download, why you all give the answer other than my question. Brother, come on la. Thank you.

Quote:

7.0-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso
7.0-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso
7.0-RELEASE-i386-disc2.iso
7.0-RELEASE-i386-disc3.iso
7.0-RELEASE-i386-docs.iso
7.0-RELEASE-i386-livefs.iso

brianL 04-10-2008 05:56 AM

This page in the handbook is what you need to read:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/...iff-media.html

section 2.13.1

Try and do some thinking for yourself, as well.


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