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Old 10-01-2012, 12:21 PM   #1
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Unhappy Unable to install Suse


Hello everyone,
Here is my exact story:

I had got a new HDD. I installed Windows 7 into it. I hate Windows, so I wanted to install some Linux distro as soon as possible. I partitioned my HDD into a few parts using the partition manager in Windows and in turn converted them into Simple Partitions (I do not know what that means but Windows said that I had done it)-NTFS. Then, I tried to install Suse 12.2 KDE using Live USB. At the disk partitoning part, Suse could not assign spaces for isntallations automatically. So I selected Create Partition Setup and selected three partitons as my home, root and swap and applied for a format to Ext3 (as I knew Linux cant run on NTFS). The installation was successful but upon restart, grub didnt start. I was taken into Windows directly. I tried what was written at: http://forums.opensuse.org/content/1...vd-rescue.html but did not understand how to go into the rescue mode. I tried the codes in the site at terminal but all in vain.

I can understand that the problem is certainly with grub. In the yast bootloader settings of my Live USB, I got an error message:

Because of the paritioning, the boot loaded cannot be properly installed.

Also, at the Yast partitioner, I am getting this error message"

The partitioning on disk /dev/sda is not readable by the partitioning tool parted, which is used to change the partition table.

You can use the partitions on disk /dev/sda as they are. You can format them and assign mount points to them, but you cannot add, edit, resize, or rename partitions from that disk with this tool.


I am facing a great deal of difficulties, as I am not used to Windows.

Thanx in advance...

Also, I have started another thread regarding the same in the OpenSUSE forums: http://forums.opensuse.org/english/g...tallation.html

Last edited by americast; 10-01-2012 at 12:23 PM.
 
Old 10-01-2012, 12:52 PM   #2
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Open your partition manager in Windows, delete all of the partitions other than the Windows one, and then do the installation again. The Linux installation works much better when it can partition things itself using the free space on the drive rather than being forced into a set of pre-existing partitions.
 
Old 10-01-2012, 12:52 PM   #3
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Hello everyone,
I had got a new HDD. I installed Windows 7 into it. I hate Windows, so I wanted to install some Linux distro as soon as possible. I partitioned my HDD into a few parts using the partition manager in Windows and in turn converted them into Simple Partitions (I do not know what that means but Windows said that I had done it)-NTFS. Then, I tried to install Suse 12.2 KDE using Live USB. At the disk partitoning part, Suse could not assign spaces for isntallations automatically. So I selected Create Partition Setup and selected three partitons as my home, root and swap and applied for a format to Ext3 (as I knew Linux cant run on NTFS). The installation was successful but upon restart, grub didnt start. I was taken into Windows directly. I tried what was written at: but did not understand how to go into the rescue mode. I tried the codes in the site at terminal but all in vain.

I can understand that the problem is certainly with grub. In the yast bootloader settings of my Live USB, I got an error message:
Because of the paritioning, the boot loaded cannot be properly installed.

Also, at the Yast partitioner, I am getting this error message"
The partitioning on disk /dev/sda is not readable by the partitioning tool parted, which is used to change the partition table. You can use the partitions on disk /dev/sda as they are. You can format them and assign mount points to them, but you cannot add, edit, resize, or rename partitions from that disk with this tool.

I am facing a great deal of difficulties, as I am not used to Windows.
Not sure what you're trying to do, or why. You say you don't know what you're doing (bolded above), but seem to be trying to shrink partitions, install via a Live distro, and dual-boot. The dual-boot part is confusing...since you say you do NOT want Windows, but went out of your way to buy and install it. (?????)

Download the complete DVD image of openSUSE 12.2. Burn that DVD to a disc, boot from it. Erase any partitions you have now, and (if you don't know what things mean), let the installer partition your hard drive for you, and configure your hardware. That's it. It'll boot into Linux, and you're done. If you need further help, post details about your hardware, and what your GOALS are. What do you want to have when you're done??? For example, if you say you don't want Windows, you would certainly not need to install it first, or have a dual-boot machine.
 
Old 10-01-2012, 01:43 PM   #4
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Thax to both of you. I will try out what you are saying when everything fails because I have many files in my HDD and I do not have any place to back up any data. Dear TB0ne, I do not understand the meaning of Simple Partitons. Its not that i dont understand what I am doing.

I tried reinstalling Suse with Boot from Master Boot Record and Write generic boot code to MBR in the Boot Loader Options enabled. This time I got two errors:

1) An error occurred during initrd creation:

Kernel image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.4.6-2.10-default
Initrd image: /boot/initrd-3.4.6-2.10-default
KMS drivers: i915
Root device: /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST3160318AS_6VY0SXJH-part4 (/dev/sda4) (mounted on / as ext3)
modprobe: Module hid_generic not found.
WARNING: no dependencies for kernel module 'hid-generic' found.
Kernel Modules: hwmon thermal_sys thermal processor fan scsi_dh scsi_dh_hp_sw scsi_dh_alua scsi_dh_rdac scsi_dh_emc video i2c-core button i2c-algo-bit drm drm_kms_helper i915 libata pata_piccolo ata_generic pata_cs5530 sata_vsc pdc_adma pata_pdc202xx_old pata_ali pata_efar pata_sis libahci ahci sata_sx4 sata_qstor sata_svw pata_atiixp pata_acpi sata_sil24 pata_sc1200 ata_piix pata_cs5535 pata_artop pata_legacy sata_promise pata_hpt3x2n pata_pdc2027x pata_jmicron acard-ahci pata_cs5536 pata_sil680 pata_sl82c105 pata_ninja32 pata_it8213 pata_hpt366 pata_hpt37x pata_cs5520 pata_via pata_sch pata_cmd64x pata_cmd640 pata_amd pata_ns87410 pata_rdc pata_cypress pcmcia_core pcmcia pata_pcmcia pata_atp867x sata_inic162x sata_sil pata_mpiix pata_arasan_cf sata_uli pata_netcell pata_hpt3x3 pata_isapnp pata_rz1000 pata_ns87415 pata_marvell pata_serverworks pata_opti sata_nv pata_radisys sata_sis pata_it821x pata_oldpiix pata_optidma sata_mv sata_via pata_triflex ahci_platform usb-common usbcore ohci-hcd uhci-hcd ehci-hcd xhci-hcd hid usbhid hid-logitech-dj
Features: acpi kms plymouth block usb resume.userspace resume.kernel
Perl-Bootloader: 2012-10-01 22:41:34 ERROR: Command '/usr/sbin/grub2-install --force --skip-fs-probe /dev/sda >/var/log/YaST2/y2log_bootloader 2>&1' failed with code 256 and output: /usr/sbin/grub2-bios-setup: warning: this LDM has no Embedding Partition; embedding won't be possible.
/usr/sbin/grub2-bios-setup: error: embedding is not possible, but this is required for RAID and LVM install.

There was an error generating the initrd (1)


2) Error occurred while installing GRUB2:

/usr/sbin/grub2-bios-setup: warning: this LDM has no Embedding Partition; embedding won't be possible.
/usr/sbin/grub2-bios-setup: error: embedding is not possible, but this is required for RAID and LVM install.


Thanx a lot...
 
Old 10-01-2012, 10:34 PM   #5
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Thax to both of you. I will try out what you are saying when everything fails because I have many files in my HDD and I do not have any place to back up any data. Dear TB0ne, I do not understand the meaning of Simple Partitons. Its not that i dont understand what I am doing.
We have no way of knowing WHAT you know/don't know. And again, see my previous post...WHY are you installing Windows AT ALL, if you don't want it?
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I tried reinstalling Suse with Boot from Master Boot Record and Write generic boot code to MBR in the Boot Loader Options enabled. This time I got two errors:
1) An error occurred during initrd creation:
2) Error occurred while installing GRUB2:
/usr/sbin/grub2-bios-setup: warning: this LDM has no Embedding Partition; embedding won't be possible.
/usr/sbin/grub2-bios-setup: error: embedding is not possible, but this is required for RAID and LVM install.
Right...because your partitioning scheme is incorrect/damaged. You could probably work through these errors, and maybe get your system working, but (since it's a new install), it's not worth it. Get a cheap USB flash drive, or back up your data to a CD/DVD, or put them on Dropbox or another cloud service. Back up your data, and blow away EVERYTHING. Re-partition through the installer at build time, and be done with it.
 
Old 10-01-2012, 11:24 PM   #6
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I installed Windows because that is what my manufacturers gave me. I will try out one more thing before I remove all my files. I will tell you what I did if I am successful.

Thanx...
 
Old 10-02-2012, 11:37 PM   #7
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I think the problem is being caused because my HDD is dynamic.

Can you give me a terminal code to wipe my HDD, removing all the partitions and in turn convertung it into a simple/basic volume- just like a new HDD? Virus suddenly ate away my Windows.

Thanx...
 
Old 10-02-2012, 11:59 PM   #8
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Get a Parted Magic iso, burn it. and run from that. Run the Gparted tool within that. Then delete all partitions, one-by-one, starting with those in your extended partitions (higher sda# designations).

When installing your distro of choice, from there, I recommend advanced partitioning and setting a separate /home partition. Some may disagree, but I find it to be the most convenient way to upgrade later with fresh installs, not reformatting the /home partition on subsequent installs, and retaining your data (just make new user accounts on subsequent installs, and port your data over).
 
Old 10-03-2012, 12:50 AM   #9
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Darik's Boot and Nuke

http://www.dban.org/

That should do the trick

Simple partitions just means non-dynamic disks. That just means that they can't be fake RAID'd in Windoze. If you don't have anything stored on the HDD that you need to recover, just use the tool above and it will wipe the drive clean.

If you have files on the disk that need to be recovered, then there are many more steps involved to recover the files.

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Old 10-03-2012, 01:11 AM   #10
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Or he could just boot up the OpenSUSE installer, tell it to use the entire drive, and it will wipe out the existing partitioning layout.

10 years of partitioning, re-partitioning, re-re-re-partitioning, etc., and I've never had a need for anything more than the installer's built in tools. What do these Parted Magic or DBAN boot disks give you that you don't already have during the OS installation (especially considering the OP is just going to wipe out the drive and start from scratch anyway)?

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Old 10-03-2012, 04:34 PM   #11
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Or he could just boot up the OpenSUSE installer, tell it to use the entire drive, and it will wipe out the existing partitioning layout.

10 years of partitioning, re-partitioning, re-re-re-partitioning, etc., and I've never had a need for anything more than the installer's built in tools. What do these Parted Magic or DBAN boot disks give you that you don't already have during the OS installation (especially considering the OP is just going to wipe out the drive and start from scratch anyway)?
Agreed, totally. OP, this was suggested to you a few times. I've never had problems wiping out ANY partition type with Linux installers, on ANY version/distro I've used.
 
Old 10-03-2012, 09:16 PM   #12
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As previous posters said, do not create partitions in Windows. Start the Linux installer, delete all except the partition with your data, and create the new partitions in the SuSE installer. Install grub to the root partition.
 
Old 10-04-2012, 06:24 AM   #13
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Actually, as further above, if you take the default install options and just tell it to use all the disk(s) ie entire machine, it will re-partition and format it all for you.
No need to specify stuff manually in this case.
 
  


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