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Old 09-08-2012, 04:12 AM   #1
rahulbarai
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Question Unable to install fedora 17, neither in single boot mode nor in dual boot mode.


Hello Everybody,
I completely novice to Linux and also new to this forum. I tried to install Fedora 17 from DVD in dual booting mode with Windows XP SP3. Firstly I had created 22 GB Primary partition for installing Windows XP. Then I had created two 15 GB partitions respectively,leaving 20 GB free space for installing Fedora 17.I had Installed the Windows XP first. Then I installed Fedora 17 with DVD in that free space following the instructions during the installation process,choosing GNOME. Installation was successful but at the very end it got stuck and error message was displayed
Quote:
There was an error installing the bootloader. The system may not be bootable.
So Grub was not showing,system was automatically booting to Windows Xp. I have tried running
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grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
in recovery console as chroot following error message was given
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/usr/sbin/grub2-bios-setup: warning: this LDM has no Embedding partition; embedding won't be possible
/usr/sbin/grub2-bios-setup: warning: Embedding is not possible. GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists. However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged..
/usr/sbin/grub2-bios-setup: error: will not proceed with blocklists.
,even I tried the following
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grub2-install --force --recheck /dev/sda
but this also went in vain,following error message was given
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grub cannot be installed in dev/sda,""force --recheck /dev/sda" command not recognized, contact bug-grub2@gnu.org
. Still my system is booting to Windows XP only and GRUB is not showing. I tried to boot Fedora via Super Grub disc, but only Windows Xp is showing during that process. Then I thought there might be some problem in dual booting mode so I deleted all the partitions and tried to install Fedora 17 only removing the windows, with defaults choosing LVM, but the result was failure and this time no OS was showing, System was getting stuck to motherboard logo only during start up. So I had to install Windows XP again and with Fedora 17 as I had done it before. This time I am able to boot and use XP only. Please tell me what went wrong and how to fix the problem.
My Configuration is :
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lenovo 3000 J series with
intel chipset Motherboard,
intel pentium 4 processor,
80 Gb Hard Disk,
1.25 Gb Ram,
512 MB NVIDIA Gforce 7600 graphics card.
My Disk Partition order as follows respectively :
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1. 500 MB boot partition
2. 22.35 GB NTFS (system windows)
3. 15.72 GB basic NTFS
4. 15.67 GB Basic NTFS
5. 20.03 GB Linux.
Thanking you in advance.Help will be appreciated.

Last edited by rahulbarai; 09-08-2012 at 04:19 AM.
 
Old 09-08-2012, 10:47 AM   #2
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fedora 17 mostlikely will not install on an old computer that had xp installed

now you do meet the bare Min. specs

but on a Pentium 4 cpu and ONLY a gig of ram
it will BE VERY VERY VERY SLOW
so slow as to be almost unusable

fedora IS going to want a "/boot" partition of 768 meg to 1 gig
and a "/"partition of about 20 gig ( 12 Min. )
and a "/home" partition of 5 gig
and a "SWAP" partition of 2 Gig
but i would double ALL those sizes to be safe with using fedora

a better choice for this computer is CentOS6 and the xfce desktop
or in the Debian camp
LinuxMint - Xfce desktop

also there can ONLY be 4 primary partitions on a drive
however the 4th can be a "logical" partition and then divided up
BUT /BOOT MUST be on a PRIMARY it dose not HAVE to be the MBR BUT it must be a primary

you WILL need to reformat the whole drive
reinstall WindowsXPsp3
then install linux
ANY of the 8 to 10 year OLD guides for installing linux with XP will do
the "dd" method has NOT changed and you can use windows xp "boot.ini" to point to the 512 byte image you made with "dd"
just ignore the use of a 3.5 in floppy
ALL modern linux distros can write to the windows NTFS partition
 
Old 09-08-2012, 11:05 AM   #3
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I had the same problem, except my laptop was running Windows 7... I found that HP had cut themselves a 200MB partition, and that all other partitions couldn't be resized. I ran Fedora 17 from a USB drive, and on install I got the same boot error, then when I rebooted it I had a messed up MBR (screen said "missing operating system"). When Staples (I was on vacation and they were the only remotely tech-savy people) refused to help me I nuked Windows,installed openSUSE 12.1 everything was fine. I never did figure out the Fedora issue though... I jut assumed I had a bad copy of it or something.
 
Old 09-08-2012, 12:27 PM   #4
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GRUB 2 requires a block of unformatted space between the MBR and the first partition. It installs some of its boot images in that space.

If you can boot from a CD or USB, any of the live rescue CD distributions that contain gparted can be used to move your partitions a bit to leave the necessary space. (IIRC, 1 MB should be sufficient.)
 
Old 09-08-2012, 12:32 PM   #5
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The guide to Fedora installation is
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/...ide/index.html
The advice there is
CPU: P3 passible, P4 advised
swap partition: 2GB
boot partition: 250MB.
root partition: 5GB

It's better to make /boot larger than the minimum, in case it grows with time, although you can do without a separate partition if you use an ext filing system for root and don't let Fedora give you LVM.

The conclusion of all this is that your computer would run Fedora. Mine has much the same specifications, and I tested F17 on it with no problems: in my case with just 1GB swap and 7GB root! The problem is not a hardware one.

Off the top of my head — no checking done, so I may be talking rubbish — I wonder if you let Fedora create logical volumes and made /boot one. I don't think Grub will run from inside a LVM system.
 
Old 09-09-2012, 07:36 AM   #6
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John VV View Post
fedora 17 mostlikely will not install on an old computer that had xp installed

now you do meet the bare Min. specs

but on a Pentium 4 cpu and ONLY a gig of ram
it will BE VERY VERY VERY SLOW
so slow as to be almost unusable

fedora IS going to want a "/boot" partition of 768 meg to 1 gig
and a "/"partition of about 20 gig ( 12 Min. )
and a "/home" partition of 5 gig
and a "SWAP" partition of 2 Gig
but i would double ALL those sizes to be safe with using fedora

a better choice for this computer is CentOS6 and the xfce desktop
or in the Debian camp
LinuxMint - Xfce desktop

also there can ONLY be 4 primary partitions on a drive
however the 4th can be a "logical" partition and then divided up
BUT /BOOT MUST be on a PRIMARY it dose not HAVE to be the MBR BUT it must be a primary

you WILL need to reformat the whole drive
reinstall WindowsXPsp3
then install linux
ANY of the 8 to 10 year OLD guides for installing linux with XP will do
the "dd" method has NOT changed and you can use windows xp "boot.ini" to point to the 512 byte image you made with "dd"
just ignore the use of a 3.5 in floppy
ALL modern linux distros can write to the windows NTFS partition
Thanks a lot, but I had been used fedora 15 before with windows Xp with this configuration.
 
Old 09-09-2012, 08:16 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by DavidMcCann View Post
The guide to Fedora installation is
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/...ide/index.html
The advice there is
CPU: P3 passible, P4 advised
swap partition: 2GB
boot partition: 250MB.
root partition: 5GB

It's better to make /boot larger than the minimum, in case it grows with time, although you can do without a separate partition if you use an ext filing system for root and don't let Fedora give you LVM.

The conclusion of all this is that your computer would run Fedora. Mine has much the same specifications, and I tested F17 on it with no problems: in my case with just 1GB swap and 7GB root! The problem is not a hardware one.

Off the top of my head no checking done, so I may be talking rubbish I wonder if you let Fedora create logical volumes and made /boot one. I don't think Grub will run from inside a LVM system.
Thanks Mr MacCann.. I will try this out.
 
Old 09-10-2012, 02:16 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by DavidMcCann View Post
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Off the top of my head no checking done, so I may be talking rubbish I wonder if you let Fedora create logical volumes and made /boot one. I don't think Grub will run from inside a LVM system.
GRUB 2.0 does, in fact, "understand" logical volumes, although I (personally) think they're silly for systems not having several dozen hard drives.
 
  


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