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Old 11-18-2008, 07:10 AM   #16
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Alsaconf is part of the alsa-utils package, which you'll need to install.
 
Old 11-18-2008, 07:16 PM   #17
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OK... So here's my question...... If I already have ALSA installed and configured correctly on my 8.04 version of Ubuntu and I'm upgrading to version 8.10 why is that the end result of that upgrade was the removal of my existing ALSA configuration? That's the real heart of the matter. Upgrades, in my opinion, should not necessarily remove existing configurations of things already installed unless an Ubuntu "Upgrade" is really a slash and burn "reinstall". Don't get me wrong....I appreciate all the help and advice recieved but I find it a bit odd that I'm having to "install" something that was already installed. Did I do something wrong during the upgrade or just was this an upgrade that has problems or is this just the way Unbuntu Linux is when you do these kinds of upgrades?
 
Old 11-18-2008, 07:36 PM   #18
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Did I do something wrong during the upgrade or just was this an upgrade that has problems or is this just the way Unbuntu Linux is when you do these kinds of upgrades?
I have no idea. I wasn't watching. In any case, it's not my fault. I was just trying to help, and I actually spent some of my time researching your problem. I guess you're on your own at this point. Good luck.
 
Old 11-18-2008, 07:42 PM   #19
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Don't do upgrades. Save your configuration files, export your package database and reinstall. IMHO A lot faster and more reliable.
 
Old 11-18-2008, 08:07 PM   #20
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Quakerboy02....As I said....I really do appreciate the help and hope I didn't honk you off, I'm just new at this Linux stuff and trying to get some understanding of what happened. I'm was just reading another thead on another forum and it appears that the loss of audio when upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10 is occurring to many others as well so perhaps it's nothing I did per se.

Jay73....As I previously stated, I'm a real newbie so when you tell me that I should not do an upgrade, save my configuration files and expert my package database and reinstall --- I'm lost. How do I save my configuration files and where to I save them to? How do I export my package datbase and to where? Can you be a bit more detailed please....
 
Old 11-18-2008, 10:04 PM   #21
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re: audio. Ibex - like hardy - uses pulseaudio so it is quite likely that your alsa was simply replaced during the upgrade.

As for preparing for a fresh install, save all the files you edited manually (those would typically be in the /etc directory); if none, then that is so much less work for you. If you are going to format your home partition, make sure to save at least the most important hidden files and directories (for example, firefox, thunderbird, ...). You can simply put those back in when your new system is installed.
Exporting database: open synaptic and under file there is an option to create a script that will read in all the packages you currently have installed. After the update, open synaptic and run your saved script by selecting the relevant option from its file menu.
Obviously, this is going to take care and planning but it will save quite a bit of work. Then again, if the audio issue is the only problem, it may be more convenient to hold off and see whether you cannot simply find a workaround. I did not read any of your previous posts so let me ask you: are you sure that you are actually using alsa right now (check System > Prefs > Sound).
 
Old 11-18-2008, 10:40 PM   #22
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Jay73....So far I've run LSPCI -VV on my system which did not show a PCI Audio card installed. I suspected this to be the case as this is an older COMPAQ EN 550 tower that originally had Windows NT 4.0 installed. I found another reference that suggested that I invoke ALSAMIXER and it says that the Card/Chip is ESS AudioDrive ES1869. I also checked Compaq's web site and it lists an ES1869 driver as a driver for Windows NT. So.. I suspect that this is a chip that is directly installed on the Compaq MOBO or some other Compaq card. I've seen some info that leads me to believe that you are probably on target regarding the pulseaudio but what is confusing me is why Hardy installed ALSA but Ibex did not. From what I have read over the last couple of days leads me to believe that it's a bug that has been reported on this audio issue as there are MANY threads on the internet reporting that audio is being lost when upgrading to Ibex. So....as a Windows geek and a Linux newbie is this a case where one should stay with LTS versions of Ubuntu? I'm was not having a problem with 8.04 and was only upgrading to stay current but it seems to me that 8.10 has enough issues that it may be best to avoid this version and wait for the next LTS version. Thoughts, ideas, questions?
 
Old 11-18-2008, 10:50 PM   #23
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Well, if it ain't broken, don't fix it. Ibex offers rather few new features and they are far from mature. You and many others seem to have the audio issue, personally I am still struggling with a conflict between nvidia, the new xorg and GDM which causes my system to hang for 15 seconds after logging in (it's not a deal-breaker but it's quite annoying). If you have the space, consider keeping an LTS as a failsafe system until you find and upgrade that does work well. In the end, all those upgrades are just small hops to the next LTS. Some will be great and other ones will be there pretty much just to keep up with the schedule.

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Old 11-19-2008, 02:34 AM   #24
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I think that you just convinced me to stick with the LTS version. Thanks for all the feedback.
 
  


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