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Old 07-21-2013, 11:46 PM   #1
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Question Ubuntu - LTS vs other distro & Unity vs Cinnamon


I have two issues I would like to address. So here goes.

One. LTS vs other. As a new user, which should I get .. LTS or a newer release?. I basically understand that LTS is "long term" and general is with a more stable distro. I did try Ubuntu 12.04 for a while but I didn't like the Unity desktop. And Gnome was ok for a while. I am wondering if I should go to the newest release of Ubuntu.

Two. Cinnamon. I see that, I guess, Cinnamon can be used in Ubuntu. Does Cinnamon replace the Unity desktop environment?

Sorry if my queries are a bit too general.

Thanks ahead of time.
 
Old 07-22-2013, 03:44 AM   #2
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"Cinnamon" simply offers you an alternative GUI. I personally like XFCE myself (when using Ubuntu), but there are those that wouldn't agree with me. It generally doesn't cause any problems to install two or three different GUIs and just login to whichever one you want until you figure out which one you like. You can later you can uninstall whichever one or two other GUIs that you end up 'not' using.

Since you are new to this I would recommend using an LTS whether you go with Ubuntu, or like me, chose to go with LinuxMint. Going with an LTS will give you more time to "get the hang of things" without being nudged too soon to "upgrade" to another version of the OS.

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Old 07-22-2013, 05:43 AM   #3
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Right now, I have Mint 13 Cinnamon 32bit installed. The version of Cinnamon desktop that I have is v1.4. There is a newer version released ... v1.8. I tried installing v1.8 but it screwed up some things. Another note. I have seen that Cinnamon v1.8 now uses Nemo as opposed to Nautilus. So, if I install the latest Cinnamon desktop do I need to get Nemo? I was just thinking while typing this that just maybe not having Nemo may be the problem(s) I experienced. I have opened synaptic and entered nemo but resulted with nothing found; this being with v1.4 installed. I entered Nemo in the Software Manager and got a result of "denemo" rather than Nemo. So now I'm totally confused and getting more frustrated. So what can you tell me (and be gentle please). I was kinda thinking about going back to Ubuntu 12.04 and possibly adding the Cinnamon desktop v1.8 to Ubuntu.
 
Old 07-22-2013, 07:31 AM   #4
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Why not use the supported Cinnamon 1.4 and not have things get screwed up? Is there a specific reason you need/want the unsupported 1.8?
 
Old 07-22-2013, 07:36 AM   #5
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If you want the latest Cinnamon then install the latest Mint but understand that you won't get the lengthy support that Mint 13 will get. My advice would be to stick with Mint 13 LTS and what it offers until you are sure within yourself you are capable of changing versions every 9-12 months. LTS are good for people who want to learn at their own pace. If you feel the need to experiment after a while install a dual boot system (Mint 13 and Mint 15) in separate partitions. You will have the stability of an LTS in one instance and the new shiny latest and greatest in another.
 
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If you want the latest Cinnamon then install the latest Mint but understand that you won't get the lengthy support that Mint 13 will get. My advice would be to stick with Mint 13 LTS and what it offers until you are sure within yourself you are capable of changing versions every 9-12 months. LTS are good for people who want to learn at their own pace. If you feel the need to experiment after a while install a dual boot system (Mint 13 and Mint 15) in separate partitions. You will have the stability of an LTS in one instance and the new shiny latest and greatest in another.
 
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Old 07-22-2013, 12:07 PM   #7
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You can have stability and you can have bleeding-edge software: you can't have both! If you want to install the latest thing, be prepared for breakages. Some rolling-release distros give frequent updates without disasters: PCLinuxOS (only use that with the default KDE), Mint's Debian Edition, and Foresight.

Both Cinnamon and Unity are made by customising and partly re-writing Gnome 3, one to make it more traditional and the other to make you computer look like a smart phone (or, in my opinion, a stupid phone). Mate is a continuation of the old Gnome 2, with new developers.
 
Old 07-22-2013, 11:40 PM   #8
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Thanks to all that responded. I will do some more investigating and the "trial and error" routine. You know .... if at first you don't succeed try, try again and then quite 'cause you'll never get there". Anyway, I have installed Mint 15 Cinnamon. I will see that what happens. One good thing is that if I were using Windows and have to do a "clean" install, it would take me 2-5 days just get all the updates, patches, and such, and install the software/apps I had. At least with Linux, a clean install is really, really quick and very little to no fuss. So again, thanks. I'm outta here!
 
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