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Old 03-13-2006, 09:54 PM   #1
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Ubuntu issue..


What is the root password set to upon startup in Ubuntu? I did the install, and it NEVER asked for me to enter a root password during the install. It said it was setting up an alternate username which I can get on and everything, but I can't get my network setup on Ubuntu without root access. Am I screwed and I have to reinstall again? O_O
 
Old 03-13-2006, 10:18 PM   #2
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No, your fine, you don't need to reinstall. In Ubuntu, logging as root is turned off by defualt. If you need root access use the "sudo" method from the terminal. Finally, your password to gain root privliages for the "sudo" command is the same as your user password. So if your user password is "foobar" when you log in, then when type sudo cp file-foo-bar /boot, it will prompt you for you password, type "foobar." There you go, your done.
 
Old 03-13-2006, 10:33 PM   #3
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Check out the following link for a closer look at the merits/downsides of using sudo:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
 
Old 03-13-2006, 10:42 PM   #4
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I miraculously got it to let me onto root.

Now, how do I get it to run my Linksys USB2.0 wireless NIC? I've looked around, but it won't give me the option anywhere to play with driver setup for it. Does ubuntu have the ndiswrapper for me to use my windows CD's driver's for it to work? I have to get some sleep though...

Hope somebody can help me out. I like hte way Ubuntu feels and such so far though.

EDIT: Btw...I don't like the whole no root account setup already...seems more tedious. Though..how often DO you need root access.

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Old 03-13-2006, 11:03 PM   #5
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What is the root password set to upon startup in Ubuntu? I did the install, and it NEVER asked for me to enter a root password during the install. It said it was setting up an alternate username which I can get on and everything, but I can't get my network setup on Ubuntu without root access. Am I screwed and I have to reinstall again? O_O
IMNSHO**---The "no root" thing is the ONLY defect in Ubuntu. Easy to fix:
in a terminal:

sudo passwd root
at the prompt, enter your user password
at the next prompt, enter the new **root** password

In the GUI: System-->Administration-->Login Screen Setup
security tab-->allow root user to log in...

Voila--Ubuntu is now like every other *nix in recorded history..

**In My Not So Humble Opinion
 
Old 03-13-2006, 11:32 PM   #6
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Regarding the ndiswrapper issue:

There is a package called ndis-gtk (sudo apt-get ndis-gtk). It works great! It is a gui for ndiswrapper, and takes care of everything.
 
Old 03-14-2006, 09:38 AM   #7
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pete, isn't the apt-get command for the internet? Maybe I'm just stupid, but I thought that that was internet based. Also, I thought Ubuntu used Synaptic? I thought I saw that in there. Man..it'd be nice to be able to boot both so I could switch back and forth. It'd be nice to get all my bugs ironed out before I get my SATA drive and do this semi-permenantly.

Pix, thanks! I'll give that a shot. I'll see if I can get this stuff to work...
 
Old 03-14-2006, 10:22 AM   #8
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"Voila--Ubuntu is now like every other *nix in recorded history.."

Well that is a challenge How about Mac OSX which does pretty well the same as Ubuntu with sudo. Or Linspire which just logs you on as root!

A good compromise is to leave root disabled and, when you are about to start a session where you know you are going to need root quite a lot use this command:
sudo su

ZB
 
Old 03-14-2006, 10:36 AM   #9
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I don't have time to deal with it at the moment. I got the ndiswrapper pulled and installed, but I couldn't figure out how to work it in Ubuntu. I couldn't find any GUI-equipped files. I searched for "ndis" and went through the list of like 16 files and none of them helped.

I don't understand how PClinuxOS's livecd crammed full of stuff can auto-recog the wireless but a full install can't.

Which is better, FC4 or Ubuntu? I know that's a loaded question, but I've got the 4 ISO's downloading (I'm building a collection of Linux distro's at this point..) and I didn't know if it was better then Ubuntu. Anybody care to tell me some differences between both? I know its probably been done a thousand times before.
 
Old 03-14-2006, 10:48 AM   #10
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OH yeah, how do I delete LILO? It keeps trying to come up before GRUB and only has the option to load PCLinux along with my Win_C and Win_D partitions (D being my data partition, not a bootable). Anyways, how do I go to just Grub?
 
Old 03-14-2006, 11:08 AM   #11
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I know the whole sudo thing takes a little getting used to. However, once you are used to it, it ceases to be a problem. And as has been pointed out, it is easily circumvented if you feel you absolutely must be root. My personal opinion is that apt is a far better package manager, deb packages present fewer problems and are plentiful, and the confusion over proper repositories doesn't exist to the same degree. If I had to pick one over the other - in answer to your question - I'd say ubuntu.

However, FC4 is a Security Enhanced Linux and as such has alot going for it. I like both, use both, and don't really have any major problems with either. But my personal preference is ubuntu.

Take that for what it's worth, since it's advice from a total newbie.
 
Old 03-14-2006, 11:33 AM   #12
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isn't the apt-get command for the internet?
It is, but Apt wil also install repositories off of a CD if you tell it to.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Saurian
Also, I thought Ubuntu used Synaptic?
Synaptic is just GUI interface for Apt-get. You can use either and achieve the same results.
 
Old 03-14-2006, 12:51 PM   #13
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Yeah, I realized after I posted that that Synaptic was the GUI cover for the apt package manager - chalk another one up to the newb mistake issue.

So I still have two questions. The most pressing one at the moment is how do I edit the lilo boot loader so that it doesn't keep trying to load PCLinuxOS? And second, can anybody who is ubuntu-tuned give me some info on ndiswrapper'ing my driver? I have the driver's folder from the CD on my desktop, but I don't know where I'm supposed to go to activate the GUI-based ndiswrapper.

Thanks for the help guys, I'm getting used to it more. I think I'll run Ubuntu for now, and then when I get my new drive I'll probably setup both distro's on my computer.
 
Old 03-14-2006, 12:56 PM   #14
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Well I don't know anything about the ndiswrapper, but here is a nice page on how to edit your lilo.conf file to do what you'd like it to.

LILO How to
 
Old 03-14-2006, 01:52 PM   #15
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Thank you thank you Penguin, I think I'll be able to figure things out now. I also know now that I shouldn't write to the MBR...

Anybody have any insight on my other issue?
 
  


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