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Old 05-25-2006, 01:12 AM   #46
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I can't tell you if it's worth it for you, but updating is a brease (you've actually got to install a meta-package - let Synaptic do the rest):

1) Fire up Synaptic.
2) Search for "edubuntu".
3) Install at least "edubuntu-desktop" (I think you won't need the server...). Let it add everything it suggests!
4) Sit back and wait a while.

Don't do this if your internet connection is slow or expensive, though! You'll get a lot of educational software with that step, so it might take a considerable amount of time.

Note: From what I read, you can do the same with Xubuntu, but only starting from the (upcoming) Ubuntu Dapper Drake (6.06).

If you're unsure: http://www.edubuntu.org/
 
Old 05-25-2006, 07:12 AM   #47
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Originally Posted by MoonMind
I can't tell you if it's worth it for you, but updating is a brease (you've actually got to install a meta-package - let Synaptic do the rest):

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Note: From what I read, you can do the same with Xubuntu, but only starting from the (upcoming) Ubuntu Dapper Drake (6.06).

If you're unsure: http://www.edubuntu.org/
First, wanted to say thanks for the input on the edubuntu. Believe it or not, but this may be the answer to some prayers. What I mean is that wife and I are starting a family literacy training center soon and was needing some educational ideas for linux. Each age appropriate classroom to have its own "server" and 4-6 stations, with the offices needing its own software.

Second, since it is such short time until the release date, think we will hold off just a tad for the download on it.
 
Old 05-25-2006, 03:11 PM   #48
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Well, that sounds great - I sure hope you'll get there. And with Dapper only days/a few weeks of, I'd wait, too. And if I'm not mistaken, you did a Breezy install, so you'll get to do a dist-upgrade anyway - this way, you can assure you're able to maintain the system to its fullest in the future... Installing Edubuntu will seem even easier after that
 
Old 05-25-2006, 07:10 PM   #49
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dist-upgrade

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Well, that sounds great - I sure hope you'll get there. And with Dapper only days/a few weeks of, I'd wait, too. And if I'm not mistaken, you did a Breezy install, so you'll get to do a dist-upgrade anyway - this way, you can assure you're able to maintain the system to its fullest in the future... Installing Edubuntu will seem even easier after that
How do I do the dist-upgrade?
 
Old 05-26-2006, 02:48 AM   #50
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I've just read about a new method deployed with the new Ubuntu CDs, so running a dist-upgrade (distribution upgrade) manually (including some configuration) might not even be necessary any more - though I'll do it all the same probably, it's easy enough and quite reliable. Still, I think if they brewed up something even simpler, I'd use that if I were you:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades

A tip: Sometimes using Google or DistroWatch (or generally search functions) takes you to answers faster than asking questions

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Old 05-27-2006, 06:04 AM   #51
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I've just read about a new method deployed with the new Ubuntu CDs, so running a dist-upgrade (distribution upgrade) manually (including some configuration) might not even be necessary any more - though I'll do it all the same probably, it's easy enough and quite reliable. Still, I think if they brewed up something even simpler, I'd use that if I were you:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades

A tip: Sometimes using Google or DistroWatch (or generally search functions) takes you to answers faster than asking questions
Thanks for the input. Two attempts at upgrade, both seem to have been successful. The only problem is more of curiousity, is that I am fairly sure that I loaded them identically, but slightly different icons on the desktop. Also when one of the machines boots, archive manager says *twice* cannot find:

"Could not open "firefox_1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.3-0ubuntu2_i386.deb"

The file does not exist.


Meanwhile, also took the Gateway2000 machine and attempted ubuntu to edubuntu exchange. I got the stuff loaded, now uncertain what to do with it.

Maybe just uncertain what I am looking for with google and even LQ?
 
Old 05-27-2006, 11:11 AM   #52
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"Could not open "firefox_1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.3-0ubuntu2_i386.deb"

The file does not exist.
Did you use Synaptic or apt-get ("sudo apt-get upgrade mozilla-firefox" on the cli)?

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I got the stuff loaded, now uncertain what to do with it.
If you did an edubuntu-desktop installation via Synaptic (the GUI package manager Ubuntu uses), you should have an Edubuntu system now - if you don't, something has gone wrong.

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Maybe just uncertain what I am looking for with google and even LQ?
Possibly I didn't mean to offend you in any way, but there are things that are covered in all basic manuals and are considered common knowledge - it's hard to believe you don't stumble upon them if you use Google (or LQ) with some obvious key words (like "upgrading ubuntu" - here's a first page result from Google: http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=14).
 
Old 05-27-2006, 08:24 PM   #53
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Did you use Synaptic ("sudo apt-get upgrade mozilla-firefox" on the cli)?



If you did an edubuntu-desktop installation via Synaptic (the GUI package manager Ubuntu uses), you should have an Edubuntu system now - if you don't, something has gone wrong.



Possibly I didn't mean to offend you in any way, but there are things that are covered in all basic manuals and are considered common knowledge - it's hard to believe you don't stumble upon them if you use Google (or LQ) with some obvious key words (like "upgrading ubuntu" - here's a first page result from Google: http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=14).
Think I may have mixed issues here. The breezy to dapper upgrade worked out fine on two machines (P-3 and P-4).

The problem was the ubuntu -- dapper to edubuntu mods on the compaq. After redoing (breezy to edubuntu), it came up fine, but with only half the harddrive and 96% full capacity on that drive. Will look more into this issue tomorrow.

Was not aware there was a basic manual, so will look into that.

On the P-4 machine, had failed attempt at manual install of firefox, which loaded dseveral copies of it to the desktop. Upon bootup, it is looking for 2 copies there of that tarball. Am not sure how to undo that. Please help.

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Old 05-28-2006, 04:37 PM   #54
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Breezy to edubuntu update worked fine; whereas dapper to edubuntu locked up twice at unknown points, as the screen went blank. Going back to breezy and then going to edubuntu, it worked fine. -- dunno
 
Old 05-29-2006, 10:08 AM   #55
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Dapper's in release candidate status, so things might be a bit out of sync (shouldn't be, but they're doing upgrades and may have troubles...). I'd wait for the Dapper upgrade until Ubuntu and Edubuntu are officially released in a few days. Then they ought to be ready for the upgrade in every aspect.
 
Old 06-06-2006, 02:55 PM   #56
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Dapper's in release candidate status, so things might be a bit out of sync (shouldn't be, but they're doing upgrades and may have troubles...). I'd wait for the Dapper upgrade until Ubuntu and Edubuntu are officially released in a few days. Then they ought to be ready for the upgrade in every aspect.
Update went well, until I loaded flash onto my main computer (P-4, 512mb RAM Ubuntu Dapper), which resized the window to 640*480 (possibly smaller). I have an ATI Radeon 7500 card. Anyway, could not get flash to have even the slightest hint of working.

Have checked many wesites on this issue and have not found answers for this.

Ideas?

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Old 06-21-2006, 03:10 PM   #57
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Finally got BEA* to work

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I will But then, if you've got a chance to do that, have a look at Edubuntu (if you've already installed Ubuntu, it's only a reasonably small update away) - it is visibly geared towards children's / students' use. Bea* fits the bill of "small home office" a lot better than that of a generalist distribution - and it's certainly not suited for leisure (it never was meant to be - hence, no games, only a minimum of multimedia...).
After unknown amount of time, finally got BEA* to work on an old HP machine. Under review.
 
Old 07-19-2006, 07:53 PM   #58
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This is pretty closely related, so I wont start a new thread. I have an original iBook (clamshell style) with 32MB RAM, 3.2GB HD, G3 300MHz CPU. I was wondering how hard it would be to do a text-based install of Xubuntu. I need to know if Xubuntu will fit on 2GB (want to keep OS 9 temporarily) and run on 32MB RAM. I would only run it at 800x600 at 16bbp, and not go to heavy on eye candy. All I really want is to play some games (tetris, solitaire, frozen bubbles) and play some MP3s, maybe do some word processing.

Thanks for any help,

-Nintendo
 
Old 07-19-2006, 08:10 PM   #59
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I think a server install would be your best bet. 2G is cutting it close to how much hdd drive space you'll need. With spces like that fluxbox or blackbox might be a better choice for window manager.
 
Old 07-19-2006, 08:51 PM   #60
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Running the alternate install ISO in Qemu with 32MB RAM is giving me errors--says I need 36MB to install. So close...
You really dont think that it would run? I heard that people have XFCE running on Pentium 233's with 32MB RAM. I just really like the way XFCE looks, and anything would be better than OS 9. I am trying the alternate install in Qemu wiht 32MB now, just to see if it works at all. My only other problem is that internet access can be a problem (could never get OS 9 to let me use my Broadband via Ethernet) and then it is impossible to install anything, which I woudl need to do in a server install.
 
  


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