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Old 02-22-2014, 07:34 PM   #1
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Angry Ubuntu 13:10


I have installed ubuntu 13:10 on my desktop, alongside windows XP. When i log in i get no tool bar. I am unable to do anything without it. I can't even shut down (log off) from the keyboard. What am i doing wrong? i don't know how to remove it and try a re-install. I am not very knowledgable about computers. I really want to try this OS, can someone help me? I do have enough space on my hard drive.
 
Old 02-22-2014, 08:17 PM   #2
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Hi Bill3.
No need to be an expert in computer science in order to run Ubuntu. Like you already noticed, there is no task bar in Ubuntu. I am assuming you are running Ubuntu with Unity (Unity is the name of the graphical interface, like say Metro, or Aero in Microsoft products).
Anyway there are two things you can do to bring back the applications you have minimized. I think if you hover the mouse pointer to the upper left cordner you will get the minimized applications.
Another thing is each running application creates a small thumb nail on the Unity launcher (The left side ribbon with icons) from there you can click on that thumb nail and it will bring your application to your screen again.
 
Old 02-24-2014, 09:58 PM   #3
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Thanks so much for the answer. Hovering in the corner does zilch. If i right click i get some things. But i can't make the launcher work. I can't open Firefox, or Yahoo. All i've been able to do is change my background. Its making me feel very stupid. While it was installing it looked like it was copying most everything. But i'm not sure it did. When I open windows, almost every time I get the msg "Unresponsive Script". Is it possible that this is carrying over to Ubuntu? I still haven't even found a way to shut down with my keyboard. I have to do it manually on the PC itself. Any help will be very much appreciated.
 
Old 02-24-2014, 11:19 PM   #4
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Don't get too frustrated. I moved to Linux for my destops/laptops at home about 5 years ago. There was a bit of a learning curve but now I never willingly use Windows or Macintosh (although I do have to at work).

How did you install? Did you use a live installer that let you try it before installing on the hard drive?

Personally, Ubuntu was what got me started on Linux and it's pretty easy distribution to install and use compared to others but I really hate the new Unity desktop and find it frustrating to use (just one man's opinion). Maybe check out Linux Mint. I think the Cinnamon desktop is very easy to navigate for a newb coming from Windows. I installed it on my wife's computer who has no Linux experience and she has gotten used to it very quickly. Or Ubuntu with a different desktop enviornment
 
Old 02-25-2014, 04:01 AM   #5
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bill3, what happens in Ubuntu if you hit the Windows key on your keyboard?

What "should" happen is a search box appears in the upper left quadrant of your screen. You ought to be able to type something, like "Firefox" and then press return. This should launch Firefox.

Does any of that seem to be working?
 
Old 02-25-2014, 11:07 PM   #6
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Actually nothing happens when I click the windows key. If its the one to the right of alt key. Every once in a while i do find a search. No matter what I type in nothing I do will make it launch. I haven't been able to even see the launcher in two days. This is the most frustrating thing I have attempted in a very long time. All folders/file are (mostly) empty. I sometimes get something to open that is just plain gibberish to newbie like me. I went to our library and checked out an "Linux" manual. But as yet it hasen't helped much. It more or less says follow the instructions on the CD. When its done, reboot and your home.?? I'm about ready to use it as a boat anchor. Thanks for your help and kind words.
 
Old 02-25-2014, 11:14 PM   #7
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I did install this from a CD, I purchased on e bay. It is "ubuntu 13:10 but I have no idea which version. Unity, Mint, Cinnamon etc, nor do I know how to find out? If I don't have the easiest version, I would like to switch. Mostly all I do on the net is e mail, craigs list, e bay and a few more. Nothing real serious. I did try to "Just try" the system from the CD. But after several minutes I gave up and installed it. However I sure am glad I didn't remove windows right away. Any help you can give will be much appreciated.
 
Old 02-25-2014, 11:21 PM   #8
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Last night I somehow opened the games folder/file, and played for a while. I was unable to do it again tonight. Also I have yet to find a way to shut down from my keyboard. Also when I get some of these windows? open, I am usually unable to close them. Maybe this is just too much for an old man.
 
Old 02-26-2014, 02:44 AM   #9
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bill3, I don't think this is 'too much' but I nkow how frustrating it can be when stuff like this happens. It almost sounds to me like the Ubuntu desktop is not rendering correctly on your computer, maybe due to a graphic card issue. It does not sound like you are seeing the "normal" things you should see on Ubuntu.

There is a lightweight version of the desktop available for Ubuntu which requires less of the computer's graphic card.

If you hit alt-F3, you should get to a text-only console.

Log in with the user information you created when you installed ubuntu (ie, your user name and your password)

Once logged in, type this:

sudo sed -i 's/user-session=ubuntu/user-session=ubuntu-2d/' /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf

You will be prompted for your password again, so type that in.
and then:

sudo killall lightdm

This will restart the graphical display, so you should be taken to a new login screen. At the login screen, sign in, and see if the desktop comes up in a more usable fashion.
 
Old 02-26-2014, 10:15 PM   #10
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Thanks I will try this tomorrow. Now I have something else that needs doing. Actually I believe I am signed up to automaticly be signed in. I never get a log in request? I firmly believe you are most likely right. Nothing seems to work like i'm told it should.
 
Old 02-27-2014, 03:52 PM   #11
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It might work without login anyway, because the fancy `sed` command should set it to auto login to the 2d version of the desktop without all the fancy glitzy effects. So if you don't get asked to sign in, it still ought to default to 2d.

If this doesn't work, you can install an even lighter-weight desktop entirely. It sounds complex and strange but it's actually pretty easy. But let's not get ahead of ourselves!
 
Old 02-27-2014, 05:40 PM   #12
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bill3, may I ask why you bought an Ubuntu CD from ebay rather than downloading Ubuntu and burning your own?
It's possible that your problems are not related in any way to how you obtained Ubuntu but the best way to obtain it is to download it from the Ubuntu site and burn it to DVD, CD or copy to USB stick yourself -- that way you know what you are getting.
 
Old 02-27-2014, 05:44 PM   #13
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You might take a look at the link below which is a pretty detailed tutorial on installing Ubuntu 13.10 and includes images of most steps. After you have successfully installed Ubuntu, you should see a panel on the left side of the Desktop which should have a firefox icon, also a folder icon (file manager) as well as a number of other icons. There should also be a dash home icon (the Ubuntu logo) in the extreme upper left of the Desktop and clicking on that should open another window with a search box to search for things. If you scroll to the bottom of the page at the link below, you should see an image of what the default Desktop should look like. If you don't see any of this, something about the installation didn't work the way it should.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Insta...0-396266.shtml
 
Old 02-27-2014, 06:40 PM   #14
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bill3, may I ask why you bought an Ubuntu CD from ebay rather than downloading Ubuntu and burning your own?
It's possible that your problems are not related in any way to how you obtained Ubuntu but the best way to obtain it is to download it from the Ubuntu site and burn it to DVD, CD or copy to USB stick yourself -- that way you know what you are getting.
I think this is the most likely explanation.

Here are instructions to verify your Ubuntu DVD. If the DVD doesn't match the checksum, then it is useless and will install a corrupted OS.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM

Also keep in mind that all support for Ubuntu 13.10 ends in July 2014. So, assuming that you work through your current challenges/difficulties with learning Ubuntu, the best-case scenario is that you will have a usable operating system for March, April, May, June, and part of July.
 
Old 02-27-2014, 08:32 PM   #15
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I am going to try and answer all the answere I have received with help. I realy do appreciate them all. Also I have tried them all. I get no log in, so have been unable to type in the commands, so I don't know if they will work or not. At log in just now all I had was a thumbnail in the upper left "Yahoo". In the center of my screen a small window with single click, double click, drag and secondary click. I'm not sure how I got this but I can't find a way to change it or close it. I purchased a CD because after several attempts to download from offers, that didn't work. I bought this one. I have ran this CD twice, this may be my trouble. 1st time nothing worked! 2nd time it worked like the tutorial, I tried to follow the instructions during installation. At the end I re booted and I had a screen much like the pictured one. However trying many different things, I have now lost many of the icons. Launcher was there but wouldn't work, and now is gone. Firefox was there but wouldn't work and now its gone. All I seem to have left is Yahoo and e bay. Neither will do a thing. Obviously something is very wrong. I can I think see how the system should work. I am going to make one more attempt to run this CD again. It is supposed to remove all on the previous installation and start over. If this doesn't work. I will find a way to remove Ubuntu from my PC, and junk this CD. I feel like i've purchased an automobile kit with no instruction manual. Thanks much for your past help, and any you give in the future.
 
  


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