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Old 03-08-2011, 08:36 PM   #1
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Question Ubuntu 10.10/10.4 won't boot from CD/DVD on PowerSpec 7121 PC


I am trying to boot the latest (that will boot that is) version of Ubuntu on my Powerspec 7121 PC. PC specs I know off hand: 1GB RAM, 500GB Hitachi HDD, SONY something or other CD/DVD drive, ATI Radeon XPress 200 series integrated graphics, Realtek integrated HD audio output, Penitium D @ 2.8GHz, the stock infinitely low-end mobo, Windows XP prof sp3. I think thats most of it, let me know if anything else is needed.

So, to the question:
I am trying to boot this WITHOUT INSTALLING first, so I can make a final decision if I really want it. I have burned multiple boot disks with Alcohol 120% (InfraRecorder won't work for some reason unknown to me), at the slowest speed possible (which varies depending on the cd/dvd I burn it on). I have gone all the way down to 2x if I remember right, on a HP DVD+R disk. I boot it up, then get the "Kernel panic! - I/O APIC timer won't work!" error that told me to boot with "noapic". I did this, and ONCE, only ONCE, did I get a successful boot. Since then, even using the same disk and settings, I can not get a successful boot. Instead, I am forced to wait ridiculously long amounts of time, only to be told (this is as close to exact as I can get w/o recreating it right now):

" BusyBox v1.13.3 (Ubuntu 1:1.13.3-1ubuntu11)built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
(this part in parentheses I think says:"imitramfs") Unable to find a medium containing a live file system.
_(flashing bar) "

Every single boot cd/dvd does this to me now. Whats going on?? I've heard it could be my old hardware, that sometimes just doesn't agree with linux? It seems like that makes sense in this case, but I did get one good boot, so I don't really believe that...

Any help that anyone can offer would be appreciated by this prospective linux user! Thanks.
 
Old 03-08-2011, 08:59 PM   #2
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Check bios setting and set to default or failsafe in case they have been upped.

Could try to boot to failsafe on the distro's choices.

Make a live usb on another computer. I suspect it is the cd drive or drive controller causing this.

Test the disks on some other computer.

Might test a boot with a gpxe disk. Get one at netboot.me or boot.kernel.org

It is very possible that a computer that works great on windows will not ever work on linux.
 
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Old 03-08-2011, 09:09 PM   #3
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Thanks!
To address as many of these as I can at the moment:

I tried making a live USB from this pc, but it didn't even seem to try and boot from it. It was only a 2GB drive, and I think that was the recommended bare minimum, so I'm not sure if that would have made a difference, but its the only one I can use right now! XD The USB showed up in the boot menu, and I could order it to the top, but this still happen

Thats intriguing that some pcs just won't run linux...what would be the cause of that? a specific component I could theoretically upgrade?
 
Old 03-08-2011, 09:11 PM   #4
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This is the point where I would try another distribution. When I want to put Linux on a computer for the first time I try several distributions to see which ones work the best with the hardware on that particular computer.
 
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Old 03-08-2011, 09:28 PM   #5
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Which distros would you recommend? I only ask because its tedious burning disk after disk waiting for a stroke of luck, especially if i'm going to have to do this on another pc. Also, is there a known drop-off in stability/reliability I should know about as far as versions go? Is 10.10 or 10.4 too new is more what I'm getting at, haha. I'd like to try and check out plain Ubuntu more if I can, although I'd definitely venture away if need be. I've heard this is the way to go for Linux beginners, especially transferring from windows.
 
Old 03-08-2011, 10:01 PM   #6
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My first two choices would be Linux Mint 10 and PCLinuxOS.

http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1581

http://www.pclinuxos.com/?page_id=184

Regarding reliability per distribution and version: everyone has an opinion and they all stink. The opinions that is. Not the distributions. Having said that my opinion is that the long term support versions (x.04 versions) in Ubuntu tend to be more reliable. But that opinion is not based on extensive side by side testing.

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Old 03-09-2011, 05:41 PM   #7
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That computer isn't that bad to warrant a special distro but I'd consider lubuntu as a better selection.

I do like mint but it isn't better that ubuntu, in terms of a hardware issue it is exactly the same.

Consider maybe slitaz to start or puppy. Both known to be a good start.

I'd still boot to netboot.me or boot.kernel.org or slitaz network boot just to test this.

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Old 03-10-2011, 12:21 AM   #8
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Ok, I just booted the suggested Mint 10 on a laptop perfectly a moment ago. It would kinda do a "half-boot" type deal on the desktop in question. I made it past the menu, and the title screen, but am stuck at the terminal. I am welcomed to Mint, before promptly being "run over by a beer truck". In other words, that silly little comic cleverly inserted in the terminal to keep me happy enough to not snap every disk i've burned so far, is where progress seems to stop. For some reason I kinda expected this, haha, but does this rule out my drive as the culprit?
 
Old 03-10-2011, 01:40 AM   #9
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I've only experienced booting issues with debian squeeze when memory was bad, but Ubuntu takes so long to boot on my older machines, I could make a pot of coffee.
 
  


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