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Old 01-23-2015, 01:20 PM   #1
Gregg Bell
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Tumbler crash


In an attempt to solve another problem (transfer .avi files from a camera to a computer) I uninstalled Tumbler in the terminal via this command:

sudo apt-get remove tumbler

I was unable to transfer the .avi files so I re-installed tumbler in the terminal via this command:

sudo apt-get install tumbler

Joe here helped me find a solution to my transferring the .avi problem so that is no longer an issue, but when I turned my computer on this morning I got a window that said Tumbler had crashed. (see screenshots)

I know Tumbler has to do with thumbnails but I don't know the full scope of how. My thumbnails seem to be working fine as far as I can tell. So am I concerned about the crash, do I do anything about it or just let it go? Thanks.
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Old 01-23-2015, 02:04 PM   #2
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Here's the description of the tumbler package taken from aptitude show tumbler:
Quote:
Description: D-Bus thumbnailing service
Tumbler is a D-Bus service for applications to request thumbnails for various URI schemes and MIME
types. It is an implementation of the thumbnail management D-Bus specification described on
http://live.gnome.org/ThumbnailerSpec.
I don't have this package installed on my system and don't seem to be missing anything. On the other hand, it appears to be a gnome thingy and I use KDE. I'd say if your thumbnails are working the way you want, don't worry about it. You could check bug-reports involving tumbler if you're curious.
jdk
 
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Old 01-23-2015, 03:24 PM   #3
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregg Bell View Post
I was unable to transfer the .avi files so I re-installed tumbler
Sorry to hear you are still struggling with this. Are you saying that you actually need tumbler to transfer the avi files? (Cause I would heavily doubt that).

Tumbler is actually not a gnome thing but an xfce thing, and the fact that it's causing problems on Ubuntu is apparently a known issue.

You could try to uninstall it again and see if that stops the crash from happening. However this is probably going to mean you won't have any thumbnailing anymore there.

Alternatively we could try to configure it such that it does not show thumbnails for avis, as suggested by the thread I linked to above. If you want to try that, can you please post the contents of your tumbler config, which you can hopefully print with the following command:

Code:
cat /etc/xdg/tumbler/tumbler.rc
Should the above command say something like "file not found" we'll need to look for the config file, so in that case please post the output of
Code:
find /etc/ -name "*tumbler*"
 
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Old 01-23-2015, 10:55 PM   #4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jdkaye View Post
Here's the description of the tumbler package taken from aptitude show tumbler:

I don't have this package installed on my system and don't seem to be missing anything. On the other hand, it appears to be a gnome thingy and I use KDE. I'd say if your thumbnails are working the way you want, don't worry about it. You could check bug-reports involving tumbler if you're curious.
jdk
I'm so tempted to go the 'don't worry about it' route, LZM, but being an LZM myself I am drawn onward and upward by the Sky-Penguin and will try Joe's thing.
 
Old 01-23-2015, 10:57 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by joe_2000 View Post
Sorry to hear you are still struggling with this. Are you saying that you actually need tumbler to transfer the avi files? (Cause I would heavily doubt that).

Tumbler is actually not a gnome thing but an xfce thing, and the fact that it's causing problems on Ubuntu is apparently a known issue.

You could try to uninstall it again and see if that stops the crash from happening. However this is probably going to mean you won't have any thumbnailing anymore there.

Alternatively we could try to configure it such that it does not show thumbnails for avis, as suggested by the thread I linked to above. If you want to try that, can you please post the contents of your tumbler config, which you can hopefully print with the following command:

Code:
cat /etc/xdg/tumbler/tumbler.rc
Should the above command say something like "file not found" we'll need to look for the config file, so in that case please post the output of
Code:
find /etc/ -name "*tumbler*"
Got it, Joe.

gregory@OptiPlex-170L:~/Desktop$ cat /etc/xdg/tumbler/tumbler.rc
###
# [TypeNameOfPlugin]
# Disabled: Set to true to avoid loading the plugin. By default all
# plugins are loaded.
# Priority: Priority of the plugin if more plugins support the same
# uri-scheme / mime-type combination.
# Locations: ;-separated path list the plugin will be used in. If the
# source file is not a child of one of the locations, the
# plugin won't be used and another plugin with a lower
# priority will be tried.
# Absolute paths, environement variables, ~/ and ~username/
# are allowed. Leave empty to allow all locations.
# MaxFileSize: Maximum size of the source file the plugin will still
# try to generate a plugin for. The size is in bytes,
# 0 disabled the check.
#
# For more information see http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/tumbler
###

###
# Image Thumbnailers
###

# Jpeg thumbnailer (from exif data if possible)
[JPEGThumbnailer]
Disabled=false
Priority=3
Locations=
MaxFileSize=0

# Supports all type GdkPixbuf supports
[PixbufThumbnailer]
Disabled=false
Priority=2
Locations=
MaxFileSize=0

# RAW image files using libopenraw
[RawThumbnailer]
Disabled=false
Priority=1
Locations=
MaxFileSize=0

###
# Video Thumbnailers
###

# Download cover from omdbapi.com or themoviedb.org if an
# API key is given. This plugin is disabled because it
# sends your (private) movie names over the internet.
[CoverThumbnailer]
Disabled=true
Priority=3
Locations=~/movies
MaxFileSize=0
#APIKey=your-api-key-from-themoviedb.org

# ffmpegthumbnailer plugin
[FfmpegThumbnailer]
Disabled=false
Priority=2
Locations=
MaxFileSize=0

# GStreamer plugin
[GstThumbnailer]
Disabled=false
Priority=1
Locations=
MaxFileSize=0

###
# Other Thumbnailers
###

# FreeType thumbnailer
[FontThumbnailer]
Disabled=false
Priority=1
Locations=
MaxFileSize=0


# PDF/PS thumbnailer
[PopplerThumbnailer]
Disabled=false
Priority=1
Locations=
MaxFileSize=0

# Open document thumbnailer (ODF)
[OdfThumbnailer]
Disabled=false
Priority=1
Locations=
MaxFileSize=0
gregory@OptiPlex-170L:~/Desktop$
 
Old 01-24-2015, 04:26 AM   #6
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Ok, this looks reasonably easy to use. This would be my first guess:
Code:
###
# [TypeNameOfPlugin]
# Disabled: Set to true to avoid loading the plugin. By default all
# plugins are loaded.
# Priority: Priority of the plugin if more plugins support the same
# uri-scheme / mime-type combination.
# Locations: ;-separated path list the plugin will be used in. If the
# source file is not a child of one of the locations, the
# plugin won't be used and another plugin with a lower
# priority will be tried.
# Absolute paths, environement variables, ~/ and ~username/
# are allowed. Leave empty to allow all locations.
# MaxFileSize: Maximum size of the source file the plugin will still
# try to generate a plugin for. The size is in bytes,
# 0 disabled the check.
#
# For more information see http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/tumbler
###

###
# Image Thumbnailers
###

# Jpeg thumbnailer (from exif data if possible)
[JPEGThumbnailer]
Disabled=false
Priority=3
Locations=~
MaxFileSize=0

# Supports all type GdkPixbuf supports
[PixbufThumbnailer]
Disabled=true
Priority=2
Locations=~
MaxFileSize=0

# RAW image files using libopenraw
[RawThumbnailer]
Disabled=true
Priority=1
Locations=~
MaxFileSize=0

###
# Video Thumbnailers
###

# Download cover from omdbapi.com or themoviedb.org if an
# API key is given. This plugin is disabled because it
# sends your (private) movie names over the internet.
[CoverThumbnailer]
Disabled=true
Priority=3
Locations=~/movies
MaxFileSize=0
#APIKey=your-api-key-from-themoviedb.org

# ffmpegthumbnailer plugin
[FfmpegThumbnailer]
Disabled=true
Priority=2
Locations=~
MaxFileSize=0

# GStreamer plugin
[GstThumbnailer]
Disabled=true
Priority=1
Locations=~
MaxFileSize=0

###
# Other Thumbnailers
###

# FreeType thumbnailer
[FontThumbnailer]
Disabled=true
Priority=1
Locations=~
MaxFileSize=0


# PDF/PS thumbnailer
[PopplerThumbnailer]
Disabled=true
Priority=1
Locations=~
MaxFileSize=0

# Open document thumbnailer (ODF)
[OdfThumbnailer]
Disabled=true
Priority=1
Locations=~
MaxFileSize=0
(If I understand this config file's syntax correctly this should disable all thumbnailing except for jpegs in your home directory.)

Let us know how this goes.

P.S.: I saw in your other thread you also have a crashing software center that seems to use wrong sources. (as replies there have indicated). Maybe this is also contributing to this issue. I'd recommend to try and fix that before putting too much effort into this issue here.
 
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Old 01-26-2015, 11:23 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by joe_2000 View Post
Ok, this looks reasonably easy to use. This would be my first guess:
Code:
###
# [TypeNameOfPlugin]
# Disabled: Set to true to avoid loading the plugin. By default all
# plugins are loaded.
# Priority: Priority of the plugin if more plugins support the same
# uri-scheme / mime-type combination.
# Locations: ;-separated path list the plugin will be used in. If the
# source file is not a child of one of the locations, the
# plugin won't be used and another plugin with a lower
# priority will be tried.
# Absolute paths, environement variables, ~/ and ~username/
# are allowed. Leave empty to allow all locations.
# MaxFileSize: Maximum size of the source file the plugin will still
# try to generate a plugin for. The size is in bytes,
# 0 disabled the check.
#
# For more information see http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/tumbler
###

###
# Image Thumbnailers
###

# Jpeg thumbnailer (from exif data if possible)
[JPEGThumbnailer]
Disabled=false
Priority=3
Locations=~
MaxFileSize=0

# Supports all type GdkPixbuf supports
[PixbufThumbnailer]
Disabled=true
Priority=2
Locations=~
MaxFileSize=0

# RAW image files using libopenraw
[RawThumbnailer]
Disabled=true
Priority=1
Locations=~
MaxFileSize=0

###
# Video Thumbnailers
###

# Download cover from omdbapi.com or themoviedb.org if an
# API key is given. This plugin is disabled because it
# sends your (private) movie names over the internet.
[CoverThumbnailer]
Disabled=true
Priority=3
Locations=~/movies
MaxFileSize=0
#APIKey=your-api-key-from-themoviedb.org

# ffmpegthumbnailer plugin
[FfmpegThumbnailer]
Disabled=true
Priority=2
Locations=~
MaxFileSize=0

# GStreamer plugin
[GstThumbnailer]
Disabled=true
Priority=1
Locations=~
MaxFileSize=0

###
# Other Thumbnailers
###

# FreeType thumbnailer
[FontThumbnailer]
Disabled=true
Priority=1
Locations=~
MaxFileSize=0


# PDF/PS thumbnailer
[PopplerThumbnailer]
Disabled=true
Priority=1
Locations=~
MaxFileSize=0

# Open document thumbnailer (ODF)
[OdfThumbnailer]
Disabled=true
Priority=1
Locations=~
MaxFileSize=0
(If I understand this config file's syntax correctly this should disable all thumbnailing except for jpegs in your home directory.)

Let us know how this goes.

P.S.: I saw in your other thread you also have a crashing software center that seems to use wrong sources. (as replies there have indicated). Maybe this is also contributing to this issue. I'd recommend to try and fix that before putting too much effort into this issue here.
Joe, after doing that last reboot after the sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade everything seems to be working good. I just did the File Manager choosing "never" for the thumbnails and was able to tranfer photos from the camera perfectly. Then once they were done, I chose 'locally' instead of 'never' and that's that.

Many many MANY thanks for all your help!!
 
Old 01-28-2015, 03:08 PM   #8
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Unfortunately, I got the warning window (203) again when I opened the computer this morning and then I got the error message (204 & 205). And when I did the version check (via lsb_release -a ) I got:

gregory@OptiPlex-170L:~/Desktop$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu 14.10
Release: 14.10
Codename: utopic
gregory@OptiPlex-170L:~/Desktop$

So I have the every-six-months Xubnuntu now, but the 13.10 stuff still shows up. Confusing.

Thing is, the computer is working great. I tested the camera and it transferred the files EVEN SHOWING THE THUMBNAILS. What happened was I forgot to go into the File Manager and check "never" on the thumbnails and just went in there and the transfer went perfectly while showing the thumbnail photos.

So, maybe I don't need to do anything? (There's a box that I can check on the warning that comes up (when I open the computer) that says something like: 'Ignore this warning.')

Thanks.
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Old 01-29-2015, 03:39 PM   #9
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The only idea I have left is that you have some package on your system that conflicts with tumbler. I don't have any great ideas on how to diagnose this at this point. If I were you, I guess I'd ignore the warning for the time being. If other things start to break I would do a reinstall (of an LTS version this time, and stick with it...)
 
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Old 01-29-2015, 03:49 PM   #10
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The only idea I have left is that you have some package on your system that conflicts with tumbler. I don't have any great ideas on how to diagnose this at this point. If I were you, I guess I'd ignore the warning for the time being. If other things start to break I would do a reinstall (of an LTS version this time, and stick with it...)
Sounds like a plan. Thanks.
 
  


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