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Old 09-22-2014, 03:35 PM   #106
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It was only one screenful of text - but could you try an alternative - with both disks + the live USB plugged in?
Code:
inxi -D
Purely as an example I get (for my two internal SATA drives):-
Code:
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1250.3GB (30.5% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: ST1000DM003 size: 1000.2GB 
           2: id: /dev/sdb model: SAMSUNG_SP2504C size: 250.1GB
Note that I boot from /dev/sda which also holds my GRUB configuration.

Because you have to boot from a live USB stick (could you confirm this?) - I would expect yours to appear somewhat differently.
i can confirm it does boot from a live usb stick

Drives: HDD Total Size: 1584.4GB (0.4% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: Hitachi_HDS72101 size: 1000.2GB
2: id: /dev/sdb model: MAXTOR_STM380211 size: 80.0GB 3: USB id: /dev/sdc model: External_USB_3.0 size: 500.1GB
4: USB id: /dev/sdd model: U3_Cruzer_Micro size: 4.1GB
 
Old 09-22-2014, 04:18 PM   #107
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The disk count increases!!!

Code:
1: id: /dev/sda model: ST1000DM003 size: 1000.2GB
2: id: /dev/sdb model: MAXTOR_STM380211 size: 80.0GB
3: USB id: /dev/sdc model: External_USB_3.0 size: 500.1GB
4: USB id: /dev/sdd model: U3_Cruzer_Micro size: 4.1GB
Where obviously /dev/sdd is the live USB stick.

I would strongly suggest that you take backups of any important Windows files and that you install GRUB with all disks in their final places.
You will be able to see which is the USB disk by its size.

It should be identified as /dev/sdc - so install to the sdc disk, checking the size.
Change the BIOS boot order to look at /dev/sdc first.

You could do a full install instead, if this seems more straightforward.

I notice that it says that only 0.4% of all those disks are used - there doesn't seem any danger of wiping anything out!!!

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Old 09-22-2014, 04:53 PM   #108
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The disk count increases!!!

Code:
1: id: /dev/sda model: ST1000DM003 size: 1000.2GB
2: id: /dev/sdb model: MAXTOR_STM380211 size: 80.0GB
3: USB id: /dev/sdc model: External_USB_3.0 size: 500.1GB
4: USB id: /dev/sdd model: U3_Cruzer_Micro size: 4.1GB
Where obviously /dev/sdd is the live USB stick.

I would strongly suggest that you take backups of any important Windows files and that you install GRUB with all disks in their final places.
You will be able to see which is the USB disk by its size.

It should be identified as /dev/sdc - so install to the sdc disk, checking the size.
Change the BIOS boot order to look at /dev/sdc first.

You could do a full install instead, if this seems more straightforward.

I notice that it says that only 0.4% of all those disks are used - there doesn't seem any danger of wiping anything out!!!
oh yeah thats definatly an error, theres less than 4 gigs left on the 80gb drive and 56gbs left on the 1tb drive

heres a rerun of the command after remounting the drives

Drives: HDD Total Size: 1584.4GB (64.7% used)
1: id: /dev/sda model: Hitachi_HDS72101 size: 1000.2GB
2: id: /dev/sdb model: MAXTOR_STM380211 size: 80.0GB
3: USB id: /dev/sdc model: External_USB_3.0 size: 500.1GB
4: USB id: /dev/sdd model: U3_Cruzer_Micro size: 4.1GB

Last edited by beenlord; 09-22-2014 at 04:58 PM.
 
Old 09-23-2014, 03:33 AM   #109
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well i typed in dmesg | less and a bunch of text showed up, too much to copy and past, so what should i do? D:
About two thirds to three quarters of the way through the messages, you should see your drive designations, they look like this
Code:
[    1.607181] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 125045424 512-byte logical blocks: (64.0 GB/59.
6 GiB)
[    1.607418] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
[    1.607429] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
[    1.607505] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, does
n't support DPO or FUA
[    1.608560]  sda: sda1 sda2
I have one disk (/dev/sda) with 3 partitions (sda1 sda2 sda3)

These are what we want, for all your disks; if your pendrive does not show, unplug and replug it, then run dmesg | tail, to see its designation.
It is important not to change any of these whilst people are trying to help you.
 
Old 09-23-2014, 06:34 AM   #110
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About two thirds to three quarters of the way through the messages, you should see your drive designations, they look like this
Code:
[    1.607181] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 125045424 512-byte logical blocks: (64.0 GB/59.
6 GiB)
[    1.607418] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
[    1.607429] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
[    1.607505] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, does
n't support DPO or FUA
[    1.608560]  sda: sda1 sda2
I have one disk (/dev/sda) with 3 partitions (sda1 sda2 sda3)

These are what we want, for all your disks; if your pendrive does not show, unplug and replug it, then run dmesg | tail, to see its designation.
It is important not to change any of these whilst people are trying to help you.
[ 5.112383] scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA Hitachi HDS72101 MS2O PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
[ 5.112563] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 1953525168 512-byte logical blocks: (1.00 TB/931 GiB)
[ 5.112565] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 4096-byte physical blocks
[ 5.112595] sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
[ 5.112635] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
[ 5.112637] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
[ 5.112667] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
[ 5.112731] scsi 0:0:1:0: Direct-Access ATA MAXTOR STM380211 3.AA PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
[ 5.112845] sd 0:0:1:0: [sdb] 156301488 512-byte logical blocks: (80.0 GB/74.5 GiB)
[ 5.112865] sd 0:0:1:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0
[ 5.112957] sd 0:0:1:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
[ 5.112960] sd 0:0:1:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
[ 5.113675] scsi 1:0:0:0: CD-ROM TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-H653N HB02 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
[ 5.116329] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
[ 5.116332] cdrom: Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
[ 5.116437] sr 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0
[ 5.116505] sr 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 5
[ 5.128016] tsc: Refined TSC clocksource calibration: 2499.999 MHz
[ 5.140058] sda: sda1 sda2
[ 5.140113] sd 0:0:1:0: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
[ 5.140420] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
[ 5.150054] usb 2-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0781, idProduct=5406
[ 5.150058] usb 2-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[ 5.150060] usb 2-1: Product: U3 Cruzer Micro
[ 5.150063] usb 2-1: Manufacturer: SanDisk Corporation
[ 5.150065] usb 2-1: SerialNumber: 000018519471E53D
[ 5.160270] sdb: sdb1
[ 5.160487] sd 0:0:1:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
[ 5.161951] Freeing unused kernel memory: 1332K (ffffffff81d1e000 - ffffffff81e6b000)
[ 5.161954] Write protecting the kernel read-only data: 12288k
[ 5.164497] Freeing unused kernel memory: 844K (ffff88000172d000 - ffff880001800000)
[ 5.166541] Freeing unused kernel memory: 708K (ffff880001b4f000 - ffff880001c00000)
[ 5.183612] systemd-udevd[128]: starting version 204

these?
 
Old 09-23-2014, 08:41 AM   #111
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If you read through that list, carefully, you will see NO reference to sdc or to a 500GB disk.
But its fairly early in the boot sequence - there ought to be a reference to sdc later on.
You can check this with
Code:
dmesg | grep sdc
This will only show the lines of dmesg containing the string 'sdc' in it.

The number by the side is an indication of the time elapsed since the boot started.
 
Old 09-23-2014, 09:18 AM   #112
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If you read through that list, carefully, you will see NO reference to sdc or to a 500GB disk.
But its fairly early in the boot sequence - there ought to be a reference to sdc later on.
You can check this with
Code:
dmesg | grep sdc
This will only show the lines of dmesg containing the string 'sdc' in it.

The number by the side is an indication of the time elapsed since the boot started.
[ 7.044126] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] 976773164 512-byte logical blocks: (500 GB/465 GiB)
[ 7.044990] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off
[ 7.044994] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00
[ 7.046124] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
[ 7.086240] sdc: sdc1 sdc2 < sdc5 >
[ 7.098245] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI disk
[ 9.876489] EXT4-fs (sdc1): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
[ 21.590545] Adding 8386556k swap on /dev/sdc5. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:8386556k FS
[ 29.535679] EXT4-fs (sdc1): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)

there we go
 
Old 09-23-2014, 07:06 PM   #113
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Just wondering what make & model is your external drive?
I'm sure it maybe available in 1 of the 4 pages listed but I'm replying from a phone so it takes a while to manuever to it.
 
Old 09-23-2014, 07:45 PM   #114
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Just wondering what make & model is your external drive?
I'm sure it maybe available in 1 of the 4 pages listed but I'm replying from a phone so it takes a while to manuever to it.
a toshiba 500gb usb3 drive i belive, sorry for the late reply by the way, been watching a video of the origonal devs playing system shock
 
Old 09-23-2014, 09:11 PM   #115
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Can you post lsusb again?
 
Old 09-24-2014, 03:29 AM   #116
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Note: Not all usb3 drives will work in usb2 sockets (nor usb2 in usb3), might just turn out to be the problem.
 
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Can you post lsusb again?
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0781:5406 SanDisk Corp. Cruzer Micro U3
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 008 Device 003: ID 1ea7:002c
Bus 008 Device 002: ID 1017:0307 Speedy Industrial Supplies, Pte., Ltd
Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 006 Device 002: ID 044f:b108 ThrustMaster, Inc. T-Flight Hotas X Flight Stick
Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 05e3:0608 Genesys Logic, Inc. USB-2.0 4-Port HUB
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0480:a00d Toshiba America Info. Systems, Inc.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
 
Old 09-24-2014, 12:25 PM   #118
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Is this a STOE.E BASICS device?
 
Old 09-24-2014, 01:28 PM   #119
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Is this a STOE.E BASICS device?
heres the full device title from where i bought it

Toshiba HDTB105EK3AA 500GB Stor.E Basics USB 3.0 2.5 Inch External Hard Drive - Black
 
Old 09-24-2014, 01:55 PM   #120
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According to the description on the Amazon site
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Powered by new USB 3.0 technology, these portable hard drives are far faster than—but still compatible with—USB 2.0 technology.
But if you are using a USB2 connection, is the connection supplying sufficient power to the disk?
 
  


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