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Old 02-06-2010, 11:26 AM   #16
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Well, now that you've understood what my problem is, maybe you'll be able to help me ?
Sure!! If you absolutely need this behavior, then use a file manager that has it!

In principle, you can install any file manager on any distro. Here's one list of possibilities:
http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20...eManagers.html

The only ones not available on my system (Arch) are: Endeavor, Rox-Filer, and 4Pane
 
Old 02-06-2010, 11:28 AM   #17
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Meaning that would be too difficult ?
Almost certainly. Unless the Nautilus dev team decides to implement it.

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I'm not familiar with such big applications. How many .exe files are there, and where are they located on my computer ?
Executables aren't ".exe"s in Linux. Linux doesn't even have a built-in concept of "extensions". They instead have no extension and are executable because their executable permission is set, not because of the name.

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Is the source code on my computer, or only the compiled version ?
You only have the executables, not the source, and you would have to understand Naitilus's code to do this.
 
Old 02-06-2010, 11:31 AM   #18
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Meaning that would be too difficult ?
I'm not familiar with such big applications. How many .exe files are there, and where are they located on my computer ? Is the source code on my computer, or only the compiled version ?
How many .exe files to recompile a Linux app? NONE!!---exe is a Windows executable.

You could certainly grab the source code for Nautilus (Google will find it), but my guess is that---unless you already know the source--- you are talking many days or even weeks to make this change.

IMHO, recompiling Nautilus to get this one feature is NOT the way to go. (See my post about all the other choices.)
 
Old 02-06-2010, 11:33 AM   #19
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Well if it's too difficult nevermind then.
According to the link given by carbonfiber, may we assume that this 'bug' is being dealt with, and shall be fixed in the next nautilus version? (when is it supposed to be released?)
In order to help me understand better how linux works, can someone answer my questions of the post 13 please (even though it's not directly linked to the issue at hand) ?
edit: nevermind, i think it's been answered while i was writing this. Let me read it.

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Old 02-06-2010, 11:34 AM   #20
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Also, executables do not contain human-readable source code. You cannot modify them. You must get the code to modify it, and then compile it into executables.
 
Old 02-06-2010, 11:38 AM   #21
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To understand how Linux works, forget completely about how Windows works. Some things you might think cannot be made different, but they are.

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How many .exe files are there, and where are they located on my computer ?
As I explained in another post, there is no such thing as ".exe" in Linux.

They are usually located in /bin (command-line essentials), /usr/bin (most programs go here), or /usr/local/bin (some programs go here, too. Usually when you compile a program it goes here by default).

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Is the source code on my computer, or only the compiled version ?
Only the compiled version.
 
Old 02-06-2010, 11:42 AM   #22
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Hi,

In addition to MTK358's post, you can find some more information about differences between Linux and Windows, explained in a very comprehensible way on this site:
Linux is not Windows

Kind regards,

Eric
 
Old 02-06-2010, 11:42 AM   #23
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may we assume that this 'bug' is being dealt with
You may assume what you like.
 
Old 02-06-2010, 11:43 AM   #24
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Well I know you guys always get all huffy when someone talks about .exe's in linux. But as far as I've understood (and I'm new to all this), it's just a way of speech. One could say that all files whose permissions are set to executables are called .exe files. There certainly is a difference between a text file that can be read by humans and a .exe file (or whatever you call it) that cannot. That's not my point anyway.
I just wanted to know where are the files that make nautilus run on my computer...
 
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Ahem---no one is getting huffy......We are only trying to help based on our knowledge.

In normal usage, any time you say ".xxx file" it means a file with the extension "xxx". There are a long list of common extensions that are used differently (or not at all) by various OSes and apps.

".exe" is the common extension for Windows executables, but I believe that you can add ".exe" to a Linux executable and it will still run (easy to test).

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I just wanted to know where are the files that make nautilus run on my computer...
Do you mean the executables or the source code? The executables will be in /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin, maybe /usr/share/*/, and in various /*/*/lib locations. Finding all of them might be a problem.
 
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I still think that saying that a file is a ".exe" refers to the fact that it has the extension "exe" and is a Windows executable.

If you want to keep talking like that, at least call them "exe"s (without the dot that implies Windows extension).

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Old 02-06-2010, 12:04 PM   #27
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ok, thanks. Just one last question before closing this topic :
is there any way to know when the next nautilus version is going to be released, and if it will include a fix for this slight inconvenience ?
 
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ok, thanks. Just one last question before closing this topic :
is there any way to know when the next nautilus version is going to be released, and if it will include a fix for this slight inconvenience ?
Well, I wouldn't call it a "bug" as you did before. The program just wasn't intended to do that in the first place. A bug is when a program doesn't behave the way it was intended.

It just depends on whether the developers either decide they want that feature or get enough requests for it. Personally I don't miss it (not that I didn't like it, but I didn't really pay attention to it).
 
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Hi,

If you're into customizing Nautilus you might want to have a look at this site:
http://live.gnome.org/Nautilus

It mentions extending functionality, writing extensions for it, and so on.

Kind regards,

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Old 02-06-2010, 12:12 PM   #30
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Well, I wouldn't call it a "bug" as you did before. The program just wasn't intended to do that in the first place. A bug is when a program doesn't behave the way it was intended.

It just depends on whether the developers either decide they want that feature or get enough requests for it. Personally I don't miss it (not that I didn't like it, but I didn't really pay attention to it).
Ditto---If I were maintaining Nautilus, adding this feature would probably never get on my "top ten" list.

I recommend that you try Dolphin.....It is the best file manager I have ever seen, and is better than anything I ever saw on Windows (at least up to XP professional)
 
  


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