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Old 08-28-2008, 04:58 PM   #16
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Yes, well, we can't all just quit our jobs in protest, and protesting doesn't always or usually change anything, so practically speaking, if you want to use Linux and you want to access something that needs IE, you're going to have to run IE, one way or another...

Remember, some poor schmo at the bank has a limited budget and choices for supporting different browsers and OSes too. I never said not to protest, but don't expect things to change overnight.

Having said that, I have actually changed banking institutions over this kind of thing, but as I said, it isn't just banks. Another example would be NBC and the use of Silverlight for streaming video, which was covered in another couple of threads here. There are several work related businesses that I use which have to have IE 6 or 7, no twiddling of Konqueror, Firefox etc will do.

Nothing wrong with some compromise, it's how we play nice in the sandbox with others. At least I can use open source on some things, and the list of things is growing. Progress has to be incremental sometimes, not a revolution.

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Old 08-28-2008, 05:37 PM   #17
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Yes, well, we can't all just quit our jobs in protest
I'm not suggesting that you (or anyone else) should. Although it would be an interesting chaos to observe!
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and protesting doesn't always or usually change anything
Neither does doing nothing.
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so practically speaking, if you want to use Linux and you want to access something that needs IE, you're going to have to run IE, one way or another...
Depends on how great your need is. However impracticle or inconvienient it may be, there are other options available.

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Remember, some poor schmo at the bank has a limited budget and choices for supporting different browsers and OSes too.
As soon as that same poor schmo remembers Micro$oft is not the be all and end all. How hard can it be to support other browsers?
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I never said not to protest, but don't expect things to change overnight.
I don't.

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Having said that, I have actually changed banking institutions over this kind of thing, but as I said, it isn't just banks. Another example would be NBC and the use of Silverlight for streaming video, which was covered in another couple of threads here. There are several work related businesses that I use which have to have IE 6 or 7, no twiddling of Konqueror, Firefox etc will do.
Why do they have to have IE only compliance?

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Nothing wrong with some compromise, it's how we play nice in the sandbox with others.
I agree. I never meant to suggest or imply compromise is never an option.
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At least I can use open source on some things, and the list of things is growing. Progress has to be incremental sometimes, not a revolution.
Long live the Revolution. That's enough thread hijacking from me.
 
Old 08-30-2008, 10:47 PM   #18
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I have complained to the bank that may be they could do some setting on their side.
So far I have not received a reply.

I installed ie6 and also installed ie7 on my openSuse10.2.
But still ie6 could not read Online Share and Trading. All I get are incomplete
little small rectangles without any figures or numbers.
ie7 just loads without anything on the screen.
May be, I am missing something.
 
Old 08-30-2008, 10:59 PM   #19
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[QUOTE={BBI}Nexus{BBI};3263057]Need help setting up your Mandriva Sources/Repositories?

May I know what is the use of setting up Mandriva Sources/Repositories?
 
Old 08-30-2008, 11:00 PM   #20
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Switch to etrade. End of problem.
 
Old 08-30-2008, 11:59 PM   #21
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Switch to etrade. End of problem.
How are we to switch to etrade?
We have ecommerce, ebanking .....Are these not just names for describing
internet transactions.
Do you mean we login in as consumer or business login?
I think either way the problem is the same.
 
Old 08-31-2008, 12:48 AM   #22
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Imagine if I phoned my a mechanic and said "I was driving my car. My car had a problem. Please tell me what is wrong with my car." The reason the mechanic wouldn't be able to tell me what is wrong with me car is the same reason no one's going to be able to tell you how to solve your problem - not enough information. You haven't even supplied the url of the web page you are having trouble with so other people can try it.

Can you not access the page in any web browser that runs natively under Linux? I'll also suggest trying using the user agent switcher extension for Firefox if you have trouble accessing the page - sometimes if a web site is badly written and doesn't work in Firefox it can be persuaded to work in Firefox if you just get Firefox to tell the site that it is Internet Explorer. (And if it does then work then it really is badly written!)

You should realise that running IE 6 under Linux really more a 'hey look what can be done' thing than something that should be relied upon for your web browsing needs. IE6 is not supposed to run under Linux, that it can be made to at all is really quite impressive. Don't expect that it will work exactly as it does when it's running under Windows.
The web page is https://www.pbebank.com.my
I have tried using Opera, Konqueror, and Firefox even with user agent switcher add-on and switch to Internet Explorer 6 as browser identification. But the same problem persist.
Is it that the web site is badly written or it is the bank's prerogative
for its users to use only one particular browser.
 
Old 08-31-2008, 01:47 AM   #23
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I took the liberty to merge your almost identical threads.
Please don't double-post.



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Old 08-31-2008, 04:47 AM   #24
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The web page is https://www.pbebank.com.my

Thank you. I just tried it. It works perfectly with konqueror 3.5.9 and firefox 2.0.0.16 with no need to invoke either "Browser ID" or "Switch Agent" hacks.

From their FAQ:

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What browser should I use for accessing PBeBank.com Internet Banking?
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Internet Explorer 5.5 or higher
Netscape Navigator 6.2 or higher
Opera 8.5 or higher
...
Mac OS X 10.2 and above with Netscape 7.02
Mac OS X 10.3 and above with Safari browser 1.2
Alternatively, the Mac version for Mozilla Firefox browser and Opera browser is also available at their respective websites.
[Snip]
We suggest you try alternative browsers such as Mozilla Firefox, Netstcape or Opera browser with the latest version.
It looks like they are doing their best to be cross-platform compatible.
I am unsubscribing from this thread.
 
Old 08-31-2008, 10:18 AM   #25
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How are we to switch to etrade?
We have ecommerce, ebanking .....Are these not just names for describing
internet transactions.
Do you mean we login in as consumer or business login?
I think either way the problem is the same.
Sorry, I didn't realise you were in Malaysia.
 
Old 08-31-2008, 03:27 PM   #26
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[QUOTE=tredegar;3265039]
Thank you. I just tried it. It works perfectly with konqueror 3.5.9 and firefox 2.0.0.16 with no need to invoke either "Browser ID" or "Switch Agent" hacks.

Hey! Before you go,
I tried FireFox2.0, Opera9.51 and Konqueror3.5.5 and it does not work.
 
Old 08-31-2008, 03:33 PM   #27
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At last, I can view my Online Share and Trading on ie6 on openSuse10.2 after
a shut-down and restart after installing ie6 and ie7 although some wordings are still a little bit diffficult to read.
My ie7 installed ok but still it starts blank.
 
Old 08-31-2008, 07:02 PM   #28
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Need help setting up your Mandriva Sources/Repositories?

May I know what is the use of setting up Mandriva Sources/Repositories?
This is for users of the Mandriva distro. Setting up your repositories expands your access to applications, and makes installation of them easier.

I too tried the link you supplied and it does work in opera 9.52. Try updating your opera and have another go.
 
Old 08-31-2008, 10:03 PM   #29
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the site works BUT without being able to log in and going to the on line trading ???
just a guess maybe it is using active X or silverLight .Or just was written with the $2,500 in "free software" ( wrights IE only code )that MS gave them when they( bank) bought " windows server "2008 , or what ever.

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Old 09-01-2008, 05:35 AM   #30
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quote=Tinkster;3264974]I took the liberty to merge your almost identical threads. Please don't double-post.
Thank you.

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