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Old 08-03-2004, 02:20 AM   #1
PJamz
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Red face This group needs prozac???


Ok- Well I am not ready to throw in the towel to return to MS just yet, considering the compatibility headaches and error messages MS will hit you with in the middle of something and ops your booted from your work! <unsaved> This I have endured for the past 7 months with my first purchases of XP's! Not to mention the money I have spent in security software because of constant hacker scans, then still they can dissemble your virus scans and firewalls given the time.

However, I am totally in the dark but I do have a flashlight~

I am starting new w/the purchased cd version of the slackware10. Having some knowledge of the fdisk format and partitioning, its familiar and I see no problem till that point when it is partitioned and then says its not recognized as a Linux partition. I have been reading in here and think I need to make other boot disc's. Not enough instruction to that. I am going to post this in the installation forum in slackware sec. but maybe you could explain how and where to get the other boot disc to use with the four cd's already sent, and when do you use them to boot? I mean if I can't get past the unrecognizable partition on what once was a MS OS. I can't see past that part that you use a boot floppy to get the system up. Its just a matter of whats the answer for my beginning experience. I bought the cd version thinking that I wouldn't have as much problems, but the problem is no installation instructions. I am installing this on a wiped clean drive w/o traces of any other OS. Would that make a difference in my install method? Thanks PJamz
 
Old 08-03-2004, 02:36 AM   #2
theYinYeti
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Hello,

Welcome on board!
I suggest you choose a better title for your thread. You're lucky I only have 40 new messages to read, else I wouldn't even have opened a thread whose title was so meaningless (in Linux context). It isn't even related to the content.
Well... I say that to help you. People here seem to be ready to help (I'm quite new here), but the number of posts per day is incredibly huge.
I don't know your distribution (my knowledge is based on Mandrake) so I can't give answers. But one thing I can say: installing on a disk without another OS *is* easier.
Slackware doesn't have a reputation of ease-of-use, like Mandrake has. Still, I guess latest version should be up-to-date. Try partitioning with 512MB for swap, 10GB for /, and everything else for /home (assuming you have 512MB RAM, and 40GB+ hard drive). That's the simplest layout you'll achieve.

Yves.
 
Old 08-03-2004, 02:48 AM   #3
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Quote:
Originally posted by PJamz
Re: This group needs prozac???
Welcome to LQ!

And now I have to say that I'm not impressed with
your introduction. You're here for the first time (as
a poster, anyway) and start out with insulting the
people you're expecting to support you with your
linux-woes?


Cheers,
Tink
 
Old 08-03-2004, 03:40 AM   #4
PJamz
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Cool Ok~ So sorry! < new title>

I would appreciate some assistance with my new software please....... and oh yea and to say Hey ya'll from sunny, hot, muggy and rainy SW Flordia.


I didn't mean to be insulting, ghezz I take prozac and I don't find anything wrong w/that I was joking because all these post are frantic! I found some instructions after doing some digging and I will work this out in the slackware section. I'm not trying to be impressive I was just being me trying to relax and find the answers to solve my issues. I am new to Linux but not new to forums, I am not usally that forward and I appoligize.

I guess my point being to my introduction is if your new to learning this you need to give it time and I know that those of you that are here to help, must be overwhelmed to hear so many ready to give up before they give it that time and find the answers. Having over six years of computer classes and learning Windows OS inside and out, I was content until XP came out. I purchased the new slack10 in the box and although this first day I'm having trouble just installing it which has brought me to this site, I'm still very excited to learn this and would like to become a Linux groupie someday. For this site that is if I am forgiven

~I hope it doesn't take me five years to learn to use Linux, however you don't know how much I appreciate the freeware that is giving me new opportunities to learn for a future computer income when otherwise I have maxed out my credit line with my husband for more software buying into MS!

God Bless....

PJamz*
 
Old 08-03-2004, 04:36 AM   #5
Bruce Hill
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Yeah, it's not good to insult seasoned *nix folks. You'll soon find that the only answers you get come from newbies just guessing, and they'll help you hose your system really quickly.

If you can read a document, you're ahead of most of the posters on this, and all other, forums. Put your Slackware CD1 in a drive and print the file Slackware-HOWTO and you'll have all the installation information you need. One bit of advice, though - use cfdisk rather than fdisk.

As has been said before...

Welcome to LQ!

And read those links in my sig. You'll learn more (if you read) about your computer in one month using Slackware than you learned in 6 years using Windoze.
 
Old 08-03-2004, 05:01 AM   #6
PJamz
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Smile Thank you ~

See that is all I needed was to go to"My computer" in my XP!! Thank you, just one question for the root id. Is it root or null? Or does it matter.

Reviewing the contents of your disk really brings your software to a whole nether outlook~


~ Awww I have to laugh and joke just to be a computer geek~ you I came from the 70's
 
Old 08-03-2004, 05:08 AM   #7
Bruce Hill
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Not sure I understand your question. Root is superuser, and it's username
is root. The password is whatever you give it when you install Slackware.
When you issue ls the id name will be shown as root, not as null.

You should also setup a normal user account, and never run as root. That
should only be used for system maintenance that the normal user can't do,
and then you don't have to login to the X server as root, you can just open
a text editor and issue su to become root. Then when you're through doing
whatever needed root privilidge, you can type exit to return to the normal
user.

In Linux root and normal user accounts are your first level of defense. In the
unlikely event that someone hacks your system, if you're running as a normal user, all they can access is your /home/<username> directory. Unless they
could crack your root password, the rest of your system is safe. And you won't accidentally do something to damage your entire system as normal user.

Edit: Once you install Slackware, there's a wealth of information that you
can access right on your drive. Look under /usr/share/doc and you'll find both
Linux-HOWTOs and Linux-FAQs. I might have that path and those last directories
typed wrong. I'm not in Slackware at the moment. But you can surely find them...

Last edited by Bruce Hill; 08-03-2004 at 05:12 AM.
 
Old 08-03-2004, 05:16 AM   #8
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Re: Ok~ So sorry! < new title>

Quote:
Originally posted by PJamz I hope it doesn't take me five years to learn to use Linux
Only five years? You'll still be learning in 10 ...Only, you'll already be much further on the way, than you thought you'd ever be

Yves.
 
Old 08-03-2004, 05:25 AM   #9
PJamz
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ok I guess Im confussed ~ in the boot to load the software when I got to the part that asked for a root id first I put my own id# then I partitioned a primary single drive having 80g hd and then I change my mind before I got to the place that you u enter 82 for the switch because decided to go ahead and do the switch and use two partitions. When I tried to add another partition it said I dont have any linux type. Its not reconizing. So then I got out my hd disk and tried to set up the partition from ther and it did only it didnt give me a option to do this on Linux so I had to put XP as OS and then tried to reinstall the first disc over. But by this time I read to enter null in the root id. I guess this is where I started off the beaten path. Then again got to the place where said not reconig the partition. So the third time reinstalled I read in ur instruction page to put root as id. so I did that and got a crazy error by the time I got to the partitioning....... Im thinking I need to wipe clean and start over now.... :0)

Pjamz*
 
Old 08-03-2004, 05:34 AM   #10
PJamz
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Ya Yen Yeti but I'll prob be too old to read the screen by then........ lol My son tells me I'm gona get a computer butt and Im more concerned about the improvments in the Accessibility options..... lol
 
Old 08-03-2004, 05:41 AM   #11
Bruce Hill
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Quote:
Originally posted by PJamz
ok I guess Im confussed ~ in the boot to load the software when I got to the part that asked for a root id first I put my own id# then I partitioned a primary single drive having 80g hd and then I change my mind before I got to the place that you u enter 82 for the switch because decided to go ahead and do the switch and use two partitions. When I tried to add another partition it said I dont have any linux type. Its not reconizing. So then I got out my hd disk and tried to set up the partition from ther and it did only it didnt give me a option to do this on Linux so I had to put XP as OS and then tried to reinstall the first disc over. But by this time I read to enter null in the root id. I guess this is where I started off the beaten path. Then again got to the place where said not reconig the partition. So the third time reinstalled I read in ur instruction page to put root as id. so I did that and got a crazy error by the time I got to the partitioning....... Im thinking I need to wipe clean and start over now.... :0)

Pjamz*
Sounds like you used fdisk rather than cfdisk. Do the install again, but this time use cfdisk and
create partitions like theYinYeti told you in his first post. You only need to give the swap partition
a type - the others you should format with reiserfs or ext3 in the part of the install process where
you select your TARGET partitions. When you come to the LILO part, you could either let Slack do
it for you or use the expert option. Be sure to place LILO in the MBR - don't let the warning scare
you - it's not really applicable anymore.

Print that install guide and use it step-by-step.

NB: Backup anything valuable on your Windoze eXPeriment system before you start...
 
  


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