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Old 10-17-2014, 08:17 PM   #1
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Thinking of switching distro


Hi all

I recently regained my interest in pentesting (only very basic stuff, but I am considering it as a career path)

As such, I downloaded and installed (dual boot with Windows) Kali.After a bit I switched to Fluxbox and spent countless hours messing about with it. I have a desktop PC with Windows as a backup so I made the laptop fully Linux (disk space was becoming an issue with dual boot as its only a 128GB SSD).

Now, I am getting my feet firmly into the world of linux, and I am thinking of switching distro for a few reasons. Some are probably made worse due to my newbie status.

1. Although initially fun, I am spending far too long figuring stuff out which should be a piece of cake to do. Getting sound to not mute on startup, mapping windows drives, messing about with screen brightness and a myriad of other things.

2. Kali seems to be custom enough to make online help a bit hit and miss.
3. It comes with a LOT of stuff I dont use (at the moment anyway)
4. A lot of the the "pros" I have spoken to seem to turn their nose down at Kali...whether or not this is justified is a mystery to me (I have a feeling it is at least partly stereotyping/elitist view going on?)
5. etc etc

So, here's what I want.

1. I do NOT want a complete Windows-ey point and click OS for complete beginners. I want something which is a bit halfway. Easy to do the basic stuff which should be standard, but will also allow me to grow with it. I think most will accommodate this but I heard of a few which restrict the user quite a bit?

2. For the pentesting stuff - needs to be as compatible as possible. Supporting monitor mode, and the tools which I will be using.

3. I have used both Gnome and KDE, I think I prefer KDE. I like FB, and will probably have another go at getting it set the way I want.

4. Decent community support.

In case it matters, I am using a Dell XPS M1330 laptop with 128GB SSD, 4GB RAM and lordhelpme Intel Centrino 2.4Ghz Dual Core.

Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance.
 
Old 10-17-2014, 08:33 PM   #2
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Hi...

http://www.linuxmint.com/

http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2653

 
Old 10-17-2014, 08:44 PM   #3
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Thanks for the suggestion
 
Old 10-17-2014, 08:51 PM   #4
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Post IMHO

Hi.

My favorite over the years is Debian(, Kali\... is built on it). I like a netinst so I can build it from scratch (so to speak ) and if you use sid you'll be entitle to all the latest fun stuff like dpkg/APT and the largest repository in the universe (don't quote me on that.)

 
Old 10-17-2014, 08:53 PM   #5
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Also opinionated: Mint is for s.
 
Old 10-17-2014, 08:55 PM   #6
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I was leaning towards Debian actually, purely because I remember I enjoyed using it as a main desktop PC years ago!
 
Old 10-17-2014, 08:56 PM   #7
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Hi:

I second that, Linux Mint 17 is good for home use and so is Debian-

http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=debian
https://www.debian.org/

Red Hat and CentOS are good for the enterprise.
Red Hat is a server class os that you have to pay for. CentOS is the free version of RH.

http://www.redhat.com/en/technologie...terprise-linux
http://www.centos.org/

You can also give Slackware a try but it will not hold your hand.
It's a darn good teacher and has it's own package management system.
http://www.slackware.com/

Good luck to you on which ever distribution you decide to settle with:-
 
Old 10-17-2014, 09:04 PM   #8
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You can do all that stuff with any distro. All you have to do is drop to the command line. Mint is a fine distro--I'm running it on one of my machines.

Since you state that your goal is learning and you have a fair bit of Linux experience with Kali, I would suggest Slackware. A full install gives you a complete environment with a choice of six desktops/window managers (including Fluxbox) out of the box. Underneath the GUI, the elegant simplicity of Slackware is as close to basic Linux as you can get. Plus, as the LQ Slackware forum is the "unofficial official" Slackware support forum, there are lots of Slackers here willing and happy to help you.

Slackware doesn't hold your hand. It expects you to be intelligent and able to figure stuff out, and it is a darned fine teacher.
 
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Old 10-17-2014, 09:34 PM   #9
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I'd try them all if I had infinity (rimes with free hehe oh sorry) BSD has many fun variants to learn with as well.
 
Old 10-17-2014, 10:49 PM   #10
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if you're trying to keep it simple without having to relearn how to configure & install apps, then I would say go with debian wheezy since it's still using init instead of system.
But sometime next year, with debian jessie you'll be forced to either learn systemd, or how to keep an init system, as it is making the leap to system.
 
Old 10-18-2014, 02:42 PM   #11
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You can, of course, do pretty well anything with any distro, including delving into the guts, so to speak. But if you like KDE, I'd say the best versions are currently PCLinuxOS (rolling-release but not bleeding-edge), Salix (enterprise quality: Slackware with added user-friendliness), and OpenSUSE.

I always advise using a distro with the default GUI, because that's the one that most developers and users have, and so the best maintained. There's nothing more irritating than situations like finding that OpenSUSE's Xfce has a vital bit missing, or that a Fedora tool has no help available if you've got KDE instead of Gnome.
 
Old 10-18-2014, 09:34 PM   #12
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Go with SlackWare. Slackware is currently the Linux distro closes to the original UNIX. Or you can also go with FreeBSD which derivated directly from UNIX. Those two OSes will teach you lots of stuff.

Debian is a fine distro too.
 
Old 10-18-2014, 09:37 PM   #13
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Once you settle on a distro, you can install a virtualizer, such as virtualbox. Then, the next time you get the urge to distro-hop (and, believe me, you will get it again--we've all been there and done that), you can test out the ones you are curious about before you make a decision. I just set up PCBSD in a VM last week so I could learn about it.

I've used a number of distros (by "used," I mean installed to bare metal and run on a machine to do stuff, as opposed to just sampled for the heck of it), but there has always been at least one Slackware box in this house.

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Old 10-19-2014, 01:54 AM   #14
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I always multi-boot Linuces, then have Virtualbox in a few TA boot.
"Gotta Catch 'Em All"
 
Old 10-19-2014, 05:30 AM   #15
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Once you settle on a distro, you can install a virtualizer, such as virtualbox. Then, the next time you get the urge to distro-hop (and, believe me, you will get it again--we've all been there and done that), you can test out the ones you are curious about before you make a decision. I just set up PCBSD in a VM last week so I could learn about it.

I've used a number of distros (by "used," I mean installed to bare metal and run on a machine to do stuff, as opposed to just sampled for the heck of it), but there has always been at least one Slackware box in this house.
Could not have said it any better. if you want the truth your Slack is out there.
 
  


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