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worker26 03-30-2007 02:47 PM

swithch to linux
 
ok so i am tired of the evil windows and i would like to instal linux :D, but before i do it i need to know some things.
1. Does any one know or allready played world of warcraft and/or guild wars in linux ? what programm u had used and wicth distribution u have ?can i play games well in linux ?
2. Can i run programms like photoshop, flash, dreamweaver, adobre premiere etc in linux using some programm or anything else ???
3. Since i would like to be able to play well in linux what distribution should i install ? keep in mind that i perfere performance over the aperence
4. i have 2 particions in my pc both ntfs since i still use windows..... so i will install linux in one particion. Normaly when i instal linux and then run it i will not be able to open the other particion because it is ntfs :( is there any way to be able to copy them / or even execute them ??? cos i have like 100gb of important things there :S i wouldnt like to lose them

plz give the aswer with the numbers of the question to help me :)
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masonm 03-30-2007 03:08 PM

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=103564

Read #6

worker26 03-30-2007 04:15 PM

well k i will put hte post in the corrent place thx :D

masonm 03-30-2007 04:41 PM

Cool. While you're there spend some time reading the 500 other posts asking the same questions.

I'm not trying to bust your chops but they're not exactly unique questions and have been asked hundreds of times. Spend some time reading and you'll probably learn everything you need to know.

Brian1 03-31-2007 10:20 AM

Since the closing of your other thread I will post my help here. Sorry to see the other post get closed.

Question 1
Not a gamer. Search the forum on the games mentioned to see what others have done.

Question 2
They will not run in a linux OS. They could run under wine. It is an emulator that can run some windows apps but does not do real well. Works better with older versions. Other option is to install vmware and run a full windows OS guest within it. Only problems is the hardware that is setup is basic and is consider virtual hardware. No real 3d acelleration graphics for example.

Question 3
Best way is to try them out. No good answer here. One option is download some Live CD of the distros you are looking at. Not all do this but many have them these days. You can boot up with it from a cd and see if most of your hardware will work off the bat. Many devices like network adapters require additional modules to be built and installed. Video cards about the same like Nvidia has linux drivers for most of their graphic cards available.

Question 4
You can read ntfs partitions fine. Writing to them has been not perfect in the past. Most distros install ntfs read support only. Patches to get write from the kernel is available for many. Just need to read the OS site in forums, FAQs and such. Best option is install ntfs-3g under the fuse filesystem. There are many post on ntfs-3g here to learn about it.

Best start is download a Live CD and see how your system likes it.
Then read, read, read, search here and on google, and ask questions.

Brian

uadrive 04-03-2007 09:50 AM

I am in the process of switching to Linux myself. I chose the openSuSE 10.2 64bit distro. So far very impressed.

The toughest challenge for me was getting the ATI drivers to work with my Radeon 1950XT. Once I overcame that hurdle and got WoW installed on Wine with a little assistance from these forums, I was able to play just fine. Even though it is running in an Emulator, I am even seeing better performance than on my previous machine. That could be the new hardware at work however.

For a living I am a .NET Developer. Ironic isn't it? :) Most of my area of expertise is in the web development. Because of this, I got a copy of VMWare from a buddy who works there and will be using this to run Visual Studio 2005. I do, however, have a great interest in Mono and plan to fully explore everything it has to offer.

As for the other suggested applications, DreamWeaver, Photoshop and such, try using some of the applications that come with Linux, like Gimp instead of Photoshop. I used to use DreamWeaver heavily, but have all but abandoned it in place of raw CSS style HTML writing which I've come to prefer.

If you absolutely can't live without some of your windows apps, try VMWare. I feel it's a good transition to help you move out of the Microsoft world as I'm trying to do. :Pengy:

jkirchner 04-03-2007 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by worker26
ok so i am tired of the evil windows and i would like to instal linux :D, but before i do it i need to know some things.
1. Does any one know or allready played world of warcraft and/or guild wars in linux ? what programm u had used and wicth distribution u have ?can i play games well in linux ?

Try Cedega (small fee for it) or Wine (free). I know WoW works as I saw that on the Cedega site. Check both sites; many windows games can be played using these programs. I was playing Morrowind last night using Cedega.

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2. Can i run programms like photoshop, flash, dreamweaver, adobre premiere etc in linux using some programm or anything else ???
I know Photoshop will not work with Wine or even with crossover linux. As suggested, try some of the Linux apps. GIMP is amazing.

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3. Since i would like to be able to play well in linux what distribution should i install ? keep in mind that i perfere performance over the aperence
Real can of worms here :) I suggest you head over to distrowatch and see what is available. I use Ubuntu and have found it easy to get into. There are many other equally good ones though. Many offer a Live CD which lets you run it before you install it. I would highly recommend that. It is a good way to see if your pc will run it.

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4. i have 2 particions in my pc both ntfs since i still use windows..... so i will install linux in one particion. Normaly when i instal linux and then run it i will not be able to open the other particion because it is ntfs :( is there any way to be able to copy them / or even execute them ??? cos i have like 100gb of important things there :S i wouldnt like to lose them

plz give the aswer with the numbers of the question to help me :)
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You can set your pc up to dual boot so you can keep windows while you get used to Linux. I still have windows XP on my pc for a few programs I don't have working in Linux yet.

One other tip; be ready for lots of reading. Remember, Linux will be new to you just like Windows was when you first tried it. Be patient, always look for an answer and if you can't find it, then ask. I have found the Linux community to be wonderful and helpful. If they say RTFM you should try it first...best way to learn :) :study:

custangro 04-03-2007 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jkirchner
I know Photoshop will not work with Wine or even with crossover linux.

I have successfully installed Photoshop 6.0 with WINE. I don't know about CS2...I haven't tried that.

-custangro

rocket357 04-03-2007 03:39 PM

I have played World of Warcraft under Wine on both Fedora and Gentoo. I managed to get a reasonable frame rate under Gentoo and Fluxbox, but as soon as I got anywhere near a crowd, the game screeched to a halt. Not good if you're into PVP. I have an AMD Athlon 64 3000+, GeForce 6600 GT, and 1 GB DDR400. Not shabby, but certainly not the best hardware available.

There was also a mouse bug that affected World of Warcraft (might have been resolved since I played, as I haven't played since WELL before the expansion was released).

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install...raft_with_wine

jkirchner 04-03-2007 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by custangro
I have successfully installed Photoshop 6.0 with WINE. I don't know about CS2...I haven't tried that.

-custangro

That is cool. There was someone on the Ubuntu forums asking and they were having difficulties. What did you do?

It was the cs2 version.

Electro 04-03-2007 07:08 PM

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1. Does any one know or allready played world of warcraft and/or guild wars in linux ? what programm u had used and wicth distribution u have ?can i play games well in linux ?
It is already have been said. Use either WINE or Cedega. Probably Cedega will play better. Use only nVidia graphic cards. ATI cards can be used, but they are not easy and they are slower. Make sure the card has a lot of memory bandwidth and has a fast core. OpenGL does beat video cards harder than DirectX.

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2. Can i run programms like photoshop, flash, dreamweaver, adobre premiere etc in linux using some programm or anything else ???
The reliability of WINE and Crossover Office when running these programs is poor. I recommend using VMware or get a MAC. Though there are alternatives to these programs. Gimp or Cinepaint can replace Photoshop. A Photoshop look a like is Pixel. Flash 4 Linux and ming can replace flash. Nvu can replace Dreamweaver. Cinelerra CVS, Jahshaka, and others can replace Adobe Premiere. Go to http://www.osalt.com/ to find other program alternatives. OSALT only lists a handful.

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3. Since i would like to be able to play well in linux what distribution should i install ? keep in mind that i perfere performance over the aperence
I prefer Gentoo but it can be hard, takes a long time, and tedious to setup. If you select a Stage 3 install, it still will take long. If you use the right compiler options, multimedia and graphics can be fast. Also installation of the desire program is automated and you can choose features what you want. IT does a good job keep proprietary drivers like from ATI and nVidia separate from open source drivers.

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4. i have 2 particions in my pc both ntfs since i still use windows..... so i will install linux in one particion. Normaly when i instal linux and then run it i will not be able to open the other particion because it is ntfs is there any way to be able to copy them / or even execute them ??? cos i have like 100gb of important things there :S i wouldnt like to lose them
Try using ntfsmount with FUSE. FUSE is a userspace filesystem. The utility ntfsmount is part of the linux-ntfs.org project. Linux can access just about any filesystem.

It is good idea to backup the data before using ntfsmount with FUSE and to make sure you do not lose any data because of a hard drive failure.

Linux built-in NTFS support is experimental. It reads files ok, but writing can corrupt files. The software from linux-ntfs.org has better write support.

WINE changes when each version comes out. A program may work in one version, but the latest version may make the program fail to work. When people say that a certain program works in WINE, state the version of WINE used.

custangro 04-03-2007 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jkirchner
That is cool. There was someone on the Ubuntu forums asking and they were having difficulties. What did you do?

It was the cs2 version.

I couldn't install the CS2 version. 6 installed fine...but it's a little buggy....it just worked for me. I installed it and it worked. I installed it using WINE and my distro is Fedora 6

-custangro


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