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Old 03-12-2015, 10:58 AM   #1
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Switching from Linux Mint to Fedora


I'm considering switching from Linux Mint 13 to a RedHat based distro. I was thinking Fedora, but am open to any suggestions.

I've been using LM for quite a while now and just want a change. I'm not overly happy with things.

I'm curious if there is a way that I can image my current installation, so if I install Fedora (or something else) and something goes drastically wrong that I can be back up and running withing a very short period of time as if nothing happened.
 
Old 03-12-2015, 11:14 AM   #2
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Sure you can image it, if you have a second hard drive as big or bigger than your current one that you don't mind using for the image. Of course if you DO have a second hard drive as big or bigger that you don't mind using for this, I'm not sure why you wouldn't just swap that drive into your system and install Fedora on it instead.

Anyway - Fedora is a bleeding edge distro. Be prepared for constant obsolescence, services and programs failing after routine updates, etc. It's for Red Hat to experiment with new program versions and work out most of the bugs before they commit them to their real distro, RHEL.

I used Fedora for years, but it was always steadily going downhill. Each subsequent version would get more and more unstable. After about version 15 I called it quits, it had gotten about as bad as Windows and I couldn't handle it anymore, so I switched and haven't looked back since.

If you want a bleeding edge distro with the absolute latest versions of everything, and don't mind having to re-install your OS every 6 months or having services break on you after updates, then by all means go for it. If you aren't interested in that, I would look elsewhere. If you describe what, exactly, you don't like about Mint maybe people could provide other suggestions that might be more suitable.
 
Old 03-12-2015, 11:24 AM   #3
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I do have a lot of space in my computer so there is no issue with storing an image. How would I go about this?? Physically swapping a hard drive is not feasible in my situation because of how things are setup. I would rather just save an image. Again, though, how would i do this??

As for bleeding edge... I'm not interested in having to re-install things every 6 months. I want stability. I find that LM is stable but there are certain programs that I like that are unstable with it. I've spent hours and hours trying to fix them but then ultimately switched programs because I couldn't find the solution. In addition, I don't really like MATE and want to give something else a try. I know that LM has different GUI's available but I prefer the RPM packager over the DEB packager.

They're really not big issues and I've lived with them for a long time, but I just want something a new. But, something that isn't going to get crippled in 6 months.

I'm open to suggestions.
 
Old 03-12-2015, 11:26 AM   #4
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I would suggest upgrading mint instead. I've found the KDE spin to be very stable.

Or, backup your data and do this.

apt-get dist-upgrade -y

Note: this is not recommended, but a clean install is. Obviously, you must be root or sudo to do this.

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Old 03-12-2015, 11:27 AM   #5
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What problems are you having with Mint 13, or is it a matter of just wanting to try something new?

I agree with suicidaleggroll (you must tell us the origin of that moniker) that Fedora is probably going to disappoint you as a desktop OS.

Have a look at the reviews for several distros in Linuxed first:
http://mylinuxexplore.blogspot.co.uk...-contents.html

You can use Clonezilla, rsync or Grsync to clone a drive if you wish.

Personally I would simply backup all my documents, photos, bookmarks etc to an external hard drive/USB flash drive and then later do a fresh install of Linux Mint 17.1 or whatever distro you prefer.

You could always try openSUSE:
http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/opensuse-13-2.html

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Old 03-12-2015, 11:31 AM   #6
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I have my hard drive partitioned so that my /home directory is separate. So, I shouldn't have to worry about my files. I just want a really fast way of restoring things if something goes wrong.

It's probably more of trying something new than anything else. There is no issue right now for me to say that I need to replace it right now. Just little things that I come across here and there.
 
Old 03-12-2015, 11:37 AM   #7
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Oh... One thing that bugs me quite a bit regarding MATE is the way that it displays the icons. I only have a couple of options. I would like something with more options that can show list, small icons, medium, large, detail view, etc. Also, I don't like the search capabilities within MATE file manager. I find it cumbersome and useless.
 
Old 03-12-2015, 11:42 AM   #8
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Burn loads of various Linux .iso images to DVDs and test them.
 
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Based on what you're describing, I would recommend OpenSUSE. It's not supported as long as Mint LTS, but 2 years gets you pretty far. It's not too bleeding edge or too conservative with regards to package versions, it's pretty similar to Mint. It's also RPM-based, and the zypper command line utility is not bad. In my experience it works very well with KDE and XFCE (haven't tried any others) and has good out-of-the-box hardware support. It's been my go-to laptop distro for many years (CentOS still runs the workstations/servers).
 
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Doesn't OpenSuse have a lot of qwerks? Meaning that their system and where they store certain files is quite unique even compared to other rpm based distros?
 
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The storage location for various system files is unique on all distros. Even file structure changes from one version of a distro to the next or one version of one program to the next can be quite dramatic. I haven't noticed anything exceptionally "weird" about OpenSUSE though. User-installed programs typically go in /usr/local, config files in /etc, binaries in /bin or /usr/bin, home directories in /home, etc.

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Old 03-12-2015, 12:40 PM   #12
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Okay... I'll look at OpenSuse.

Any other suggestions?

That link that was posted with OS reviews shows Korra 21 as a good system. But, being based on Fedora, would that mean that it would also be unstable?
 
Old 03-12-2015, 12:49 PM   #13
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Reading through these reviews I'm being reminded of other "little issues" that bug me.

One is that the spacing of the desktop icons in "Auto Arrange" are too wide in MATE. I would like them much closer together. I share my desktop between a VirtualBox Windows guest and the host LM system. While my icons are all over the place and out of alignment (or spaced way to far apart) in linux. In my Windows guest the exact same number of desktop icons appear much nicer with less spacing allowing more icons to fit.
 
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I'm pretty sure you should be able to adjust the icon spacing in MATE. I've never seen a DE (Windows included) that doesn't let you change that.
 
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Quote:
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That link that was posted with OS reviews shows Korra 21 as a good system. But, being based on Fedora, would that mean that it would also be unstable?
Actually, it will be a bit more stable, as it's made after Fedora have done the initial bug fixes. The main point of Korora is that they put in all the stuff that Fedora leaves out, like proprietary hardware drivers and patented software (e.g. media codecs).

The main problems with Fedora are that you need to move to a new version every year, because of the short support period, and it does tend to be a bit experimental. It's not bleeding-edge in terms of software, but you do get new ideas before anyone else -pulseaudio, Gnome 3, systemd - and sometimes they arrive before they're quite ready.

One thing to watch with fedora and OpenSUSE is that they are only really reliable in their two flagship versions: Gnome and KDE. The others tend to be afterthoughts, with odd bits missing or not working as expected.

If you want something that isn't Debian-based, look at PCLinuxOS (especially the KDE version) and Salix (Slackware for non-geeks).

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