it was not my intent to slam or to start a flame. I read the article and found it quite informative. As far as the referance to RTFM, I suggested that because if you do not know how to shutdown your system from a CLI, then RTFM is something you have not done. I have no problem answering a question, or helpng anyone, however I only feel that people should first try to help themselves. Research is a great way to learn.