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Old 09-04-2004, 10:16 AM   #1
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SuSE 9.1 Pro takes ages to boot - In fact so long, I just switched over to Windows.


Hey folks, well, I guess to sum it up:

AHHHHHHH

Yup. Well, I've been using Linux for a while now, have loved it, and really miss the zippy mouse speeds - Windows' mouse is just dead slow compared to Linux.

Well, when Linux takes more than half an hour to boot and doesn't even really boot... after the half an hour mark I just get annoyed and switch over to Windows.

So, really now I'm asking myself "Should I switch back to Windows, or keep Linux and try to get it working?" - Basically, I'd love to get it working... but it takes soo long to load, I don't think I can. Before I last switched off, I noticied it was going really slowly, and just thought RAM and SWAP and all that had been used up; and it was (still is actually) boiling here so decided to switch off, let my laptop cool down and go take a shower myself since I was sweating like a pig.

Came back, shower was nice, ice cold, and my laptop had cooled and I could actually pick up the AC / DC adapter without burning myself - A good sign to switch it on I thought.

Turned it on, notice it was going really slow but as in booting real slowly, nothing else. After ages, I shut down without it fully booted, tried again a bit later... timed it, and it had been over half an hour... I just gave up and went to Windows.

Now, I was on the net, I wasn't in root though, no idea why my system is going soo slow in Linux. Anyone know?

I'm using SuSE 9.1 Pro with the default kernel. No idea what could've happened. At the time I was ONLY running Opera, latest version.

Anyone?

Thanks
 
Old 09-04-2004, 03:32 PM   #2
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Anyone?

Well, I'm in Windows again and guess I'm 'ere to stay. Oh well. *shrugs*
 
Old 09-04-2004, 04:28 PM   #3
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something went screwy with you installation or somthing
try formating linux reinstalling suse
or try a different distro

we could trouble shoot your slowness but i have no idea where to start

so just try again!!

i have reinstalled linux like 20 times in the last year
finding the right distro and after i completely mess up the installation its needed

personally i love slackware or gentoo

if your new to linux try someting like mandrake or fedora instead

or just try again with suse

trust me there is no system that should take a half hour to boot

mine boots in less then 2 minutes (slackware)

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Old 09-05-2004, 02:59 AM   #4
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something went screwy with you installation or somthing
Not the installation. I've been using Linux for a pretty long time with no problems. Just something went weird yesterday when I was using Opera; all of a sudden everything was going slowly, then I switched off, went to shower, came back, and it doesn't really load. So now I'm stuck on Windows.


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try formating linux reinstalling suse or try a different distro
I've only got Fedora Core 2 and SuSE 9.1 Professional.
I'm not really keen on re-installing Linux. Why? Because then I'll be asking myself "Why should I bother with Linux, which I've had more problems with than Windows, when I could use Windows which for me works fine and has no errors or bugs?" ... so you see? And also, apparently the point of Linux is to get into it, tinker with it, etc. - NOT just reinstall over and over again, like some people claim about Windows.


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we could trouble shoot your slowness but i have no idea where to start
Maybe someone else knows where to start??


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i have reinstalled linux like 20 times in the last year
Crikey, that's a lot. I've only install Linux twice. Firstly to use it, and then again because there was a major bug in SuSE which needed to be fixed at setup.


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if your new to linux try someting like mandrake or fedora instead
I've only SuSE and Fedora. SuSE because it's easy to use to get started with, and Fedora because I like Gnome.


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trust me there is no system that should take a half hour to boot
I know!! :P
 
Old 09-06-2004, 12:29 AM   #5
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you can download a different distro 98% of them are free


"
I've only SuSE and Fedora. SuSE because it's easy to use to get started with, and Fedora because I like Gnome.

"


and you can use kde/gnome/fluxbox/backbox/enlightment/etc.etc. with any distro your are not confined to one certain Desktop enviroment with a perticular distro


linux does take some tinkering and you will have to get used to that

maybe if you can be more specific with your problem other then "it loads long" we can start somewhere

do you turn your system off and on alot? (not that it should matter alot)

i have had linux up for 2 months with out a restart...
most of the time i restart is after a recompile of the kernel, i love them, heheh

i think if you really want to get to know linux and not just "use" it you should give slackware a try

www.slackware.com great distro but you will have to download at least 2 cds so if your on a 56k your going to have to wait a while

otherwise you can get the 4 cd set via snail mail for like 10 bucks or less i think


i am just typing for words of encouragement not to help with your load time (sorry ) good luck and i hope someone helps you out



good luck
citrus

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Old 09-06-2004, 01:32 AM   #6
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Originally posted by citrus
we could trouble shoot your slowness but i have no idea where to start
Well. Only thing I can think of, is there a spot when booting it just hangs, I've no idea what SuSE's startup screen looks like, maybe it's running into a problem when trying to load something :-/
 
Old 09-06-2004, 04:42 AM   #7
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I have the same problem with a new install of Suse 9.1. I've narrowed it down to a network problem. try unplugging your network connection and rebooting.
when I boot without a network plugged in everything runs fine. as soon as I plug the network back in again EVERYTHING grinds to a near halt.
 
Old 09-11-2004, 04:54 AM   #8
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you can download a different distro 98% of them are free
I'm on a 56k, so that's going to be kind of hard.


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and you can use kde/gnome/fluxbox/backbox/enlightment/etc.etc. with any distro your are not confined to one certain Desktop enviroment with a perticular distro
SuSE does not work well with Gnome. The Gnome that comes with SuSE is messed up, and you need to re-install Gnome to have it working again; and on 56k that'll take a long time.


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maybe if you can be more specific with your problem other then "it loads long" we can start somewhere
Well, at the time of posting I didn't know much more than that - I've been tinkering around, and trying as hard as possible to find out more information, and I think I have. Apparently according to YaST Repair: PCMCIA, PostFix/PostQueue and also apparently the reiserfs are all corrupt. I tried repairing them all via YaST Repair, but it didn't work. It says it repaired them but nothing happened - the repair of the reiserfs took one second, and didn't save anything... meaning I highly doubt it was repaired.


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do you turn your system off and on alot? (not that it should matter alot)
It depends. Some days I do, some days I don't - But it's not like I turn it off, and two minutes later turn it on. There is usually a pretty long wait between turn off and turn on again.


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i have had linux up for 2 months with out a restart...
I'm on a laptop, meaning that's pretty impossible.


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Well. Only thing I can think of, is there a spot when booting it just hangs, I've no idea what SuSE's startup screen looks like, maybe it's running into a problem when trying to load something :-/
It loads slowly at all times. Real slow starting X, and then it just hangs and stops loading after initialising system settings.


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I've narrowed it down to a network problem. try unplugging your network connection and rebooting.
I have unplugged my external modem, and still the same problem. I can't remove my internal modem because I'm on a laptop.




Ok.. so basically, I've done some work and have found out the following: PCMCIA and PostFix/PostQueue are corrupt. Also YaST System Repair says that reiserfs is corrupt - So I selected Repair... and it took one second, and then reloaded... but linux wouldn't load; so I doubt it did repair.
Also when I tried to repair PCMCIA, it went through the repair page, saved settings, etc., then at the end another page to save settings came up but it skipped that - and again it doesn't load, so I doubt it did repair or save it correctly.

So, can anyone help? I'm afraid I don't know any more than this. I will be trying my best to find out more, and then will let you guys know when I know more.

So, anyone have any suggestions or anything?

Thanks
 
Old 09-18-2004, 04:46 AM   #9
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So, can anyone help?
 
Old 09-18-2004, 05:20 AM   #10
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When your shit gets corrupt the best thing to do is a clean install, or you can try to fix it and take ages, personally i dont know enough about repairing Linux so i'd go with a clean install. If it worked fine in the beginning it'll work fine again. Dunno if some guru knows how to deactivate features like the gui and stuff like that via bootloader lines that might help, then you can check out the boot configuration and stuff like that. But to save time id format, good luck
 
Old 09-18-2004, 08:30 AM   #11
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Switch to verbose mode when it's booting to see whats going on.

I had a similar problem like yours a fresh install fixed it.


As for gnome not working. I can't see what the problem is it works for me all the time.
 
Old 09-29-2004, 12:41 PM   #12
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Similar problem with suse 9.1

I don't even get to the point where I can use applications. I'm using a sony vaio frv37 with the default kernel in suse 9.1 when I get this problem. With 9.0 or another linux distro this is not evidenced.

It takes Yast 45 minutes to get to the point where it can even start asking me questions about what I want to do for the install. Might be a bit longer, I've not timed it. Is there any reason suse should take so long to even think about beginning the install process? What am I doing wrong?

I'm using the standard 5 CD version when I see this.


Offtopic but still a question of mine -- Is it possible to use a 2.4 kernel with suse 9.1 if I do manage to get it running? Kernel 2.6 doesn't like my pcmcia slot...only sees it intermittantly. This is not a problem with 2.4 kernels in any distro, for this laptop.


Any ideas?

TIA.
 
Old 09-29-2004, 02:12 PM   #13
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Ok, first off, stop complainin.



Now Breath.


Good. From readin what happened, you most likely picked up something while using opera that corrupted a root file, of some sort. Its very uncommon, at least in my experience, to get loaded with bugs on linux, unlike my windows, but still possible.


Several people above suggested doing a clean install. Gather all your files, and I would go so far as to format the hard drive.


Finallly, what system are you trying to run SUSE on. Unlike say, slackware or debian, Suse requires quite a bit of ram, similiar to WIndows XP. Perhaps your ram was damaged in a surge? I lost ram before to storms, despite my protection. You say it was working fair, before.

When you activated YAST, was it in suse, or did you use the install disk. because if you used the install disk and it was slow, then you probably have a hardware conflict. If it happened after you booted suse, you mostlikely have corrupted code, or a cracker program, hogging up ram. Still, thats unlikely, and a clean format and reinstall should fix things up.


You probably know this, but if you format a partitioned hard drive with windows, it is much easier when reinstalling stuff to install windows again first, then install you linux distro.

Hope this helps, but I need more info.

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Old 09-29-2004, 02:22 PM   #14
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Jesus christ, it took enough time for you to get helped didn't it, i'm sorry.

And as for statements like "you most likely picked up something while using opera that corrupted a root file", well that seems highly unlikely. If you don't have an informed idea, don't give false leads.

It appears from what you've said that some kernel modules were corrupted (PCMCIA, and reiserfs, unless they're referring to the actual filesystem on the PC itself), as well as the postfix program.

The quickest fix would be to do a fresh install, but you could try this:

Compile a fresh kernel (or install one), which should fix any kernel based problems.
Remove postfix with RPM then reinstall that.

However, if the reiserfs filesystem on your pc is actually blitzed, then I'd recommend backing up, and doing a fresh install.

EDIT: By fresh install, I mean reformat the linux partitions, as only then will it be fixed.

Last edited by proudclod; 09-29-2004 at 02:23 PM.
 
Old 09-29-2004, 03:08 PM   #15
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Originally posted by proudclod
Jesus christ, it took enough time for you to get helped didn't it, i'm sorry.

And as for statements like "you most likely picked up something while using opera that corrupted a root file", well that seems highly unlikely. If you don't have an informed idea, don't give false leads.

Just in my defense,

A. Yes, I was using opera for two months with SuSe 9.1, and yes, I SAID it was unlikely, but it HAPPENED TO ME. So I'm speaking vaguely from experience, and its not a false lead, just an unlikely one.

B. Funny how we supposedly have different solutions yet both suggest a reinstall (kernal/hard drive).


EDIT*Maybe I used contradicting language, but read the entire post for the words "unlikely"*EDIT

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