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chesquita 09-21-2008 09:24 AM

suitable Package Manager for Linpus-Suggestions?
 
It seems that my Linpus OS has no package manager installed. I tried doing the advanced hack method for unlocking the desktop, but after bringing up xfce-setting-show and changing the desktop behavior, no advanced menu appears when i right click on the desktop.

Please give suggestions on what package manager suits Linpus best. (Linpus apparently is based on Fedora Core 8.) plus step by step command line instructions on how to install it and get it to work.

i currently have the latest yumex tarball (not even sure if yumex is compatible for my distro--is it?) from their site, have unpacked the files, but have no idea what to do next. it's coded in python and i only know how to do ./configure :( please help. newbie here.

thanks in advance!

amani 09-22-2008 11:19 AM

If it is Fedora based, then install yum, and yumex. Get the rpm binaries...that will be better.

#man rpm

The following may not work if you have missing libraries

#su
#./configure --with-gnu-ld && make && make install

johnrc 09-22-2008 11:52 AM

xfce desktop & installer
 
Hi there,
I suspect you may have missed out a step, 'cos there is an installer, and it works. Did you set a linux password in the sequence? Just try the whole routine again maybe?

You might have a glance at this - Below is a repeat of what I just sent to some other person - see if that's any good?


I too got one of the 'One's. Good machine, but as supplied very restrictive. HOWEVER.......
First thing - get access to a proper desktop.

Get into a terminal - either <alt><f2> or 'Files', 'My Documents', 'Files', 'Terminal'.
Now type <xfce-setting-show><return> (without <> of course)
Select 'Desktop' icon in the window that appears.
On menu that appears click box for <Show desktop menu on Rt click>
Close all windows.

Try Rt clicking on the desktop - should get a menu - but not finished yet, need to set unix password.

Open terminal again, type <sudo passwd>
Type in a suitable password - it will get huffy if you choose something simple, but if you decide to stick to your guns it will work!
Press return, and repeat the password, press return again.

Close everything. Now if you Rt Click on desktop you'll get a useful menu from which to choose. Particularly useful is the <Settings> item, which then offers you all sorts of goodies, install software, fiddle with desktop and lots of other things I haven't played with yet. Best of all, If you wreck the system you can always re-install - the only downside is the time it takes for the on-line update process, but then there's always coffee and biscuits........

Next trick......

Goto www.aspireoneuser.com/forum
Search for xfce desktop, print out and follow the instructions. (It's easiest to do this on another machine, 'cos as supplied getting it to print may be hard!
(basically, you're looking for

desktop_switch-0.3.i386.rpm.gz

decompress it with

gunzip desktop.........rpm.gz

Install with

sudo rpm -i desktop.........rpm

You'll find a new icon on the panel, bottom left

Hope this helps.... GL!

j

chesquita 09-25-2008 12:55 AM

Still no luck
 
Hi johnrc, thanks. Tried what you suggested. Did all the steps again in xfce-setting-show plus password configuration but still no menu shows up in my desktop when i rightclick. Tried the second trick and here's what i got after gunzip:

[linpus@LINPUS ~]$ sudo rpm -i desktop-switch-0.3-1.i386.rpm
file /etc/rc.d/rc.5 from install of desktop-switch-0.3-1 conflicts with file from package initscripts-8.31.5-olpc_generic
file /etc/rc.d/rc.S from install of desktop-switch-0.3-1 conflicts with file from package initscripts-8.31.5-olpc_generic
file /etc/rc.d/session/desktop.xml.desktop from install of desktop-switch-0.3-1 conflicts with file from package change-desktop-1.0-1lp
file /etc/rc.d/session/desktop.xml.new from install of desktop-switch-0.3-1 conflicts with file from package change-desktop-1.0-1lp
file /etc/rc.d/session/panels.xml.desktop from install of desktop-switch-0.3-1 conflicts with file from package change-desktop-1.0-1lp
file /etc/rc.d/session/panels.xml.new from install of desktop-switch-0.3-1 conflicts with file from package change-desktop-1.0-1lp
file /etc/rc.d/session/switch-desk.sh from install of desktop-switch-0.3-1 conflicts with file from package change-desktop-1.0-1lp
file /etc/rc.d/session/xfce4-session.rc.desktop from install of desktop-switch-0.3-1 conflicts with file from package change-desktop-1.0-1lp
file /etc/rc.d/session/xfce4-session.rc.new from install of desktop-switch-0.3-1 conflicts with file from package change-desktop-1.0-1lp


Note: I am using Linpus Lite but on another machine, not on the Acer One. Could this be a significant factor?

What could be the matter? Im so excited to break in this baby already! Thanks.

chesquita 09-25-2008 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amani (Post 3288336)
If it is Fedora based, then install yum, and yumex. Get the rpm binaries...that will be better.

#man rpm

The following may not work if you have missing libraries

#su
#./configure --with-gnu-ld && make && make install

Here's what i got:
[root@LINPUS linpus]# man yum-arch.2.2.2-2.src.rpm
bash: man: command not found

so tried going the old install way:
[root@LINPUS linpus]# rpm -i yum-arch-2.2.2-2.fc6.src.rpm
warning: user mockbuild does not exist - using root
warning: group mockbuild does not exist - using root
warning: user mockbuild does not exist - using root
warning: group mockbuild does not exist - using root
warning: user mockbuild does not exist - using root
warning: group mockbuild does not exist - using root


What does it all mean? :(

So then i tried the tarball.



[root@LINPUS linpus]# mv yum-3.2.19.tar.gz /root/yum
[root@LINPUS linpus]# cd /root/yum
[root@LINPUS yum]# ls
yum-3.2.19.tar.gz
[root@LINPUS yum]# tar -xvzf yum-3.2.19.tar.gz
yum-3.2.19/
yum-3.2.19/docs/
yum-3.2.19/docs/yum-updatesd.8
yum-3.2.19/docs/yum-updatesd.conf.5
yum-3.2.19/docs/yum.8
yum-3.2.19/docs/.gitignore
yum-3.2.19/docs/Makefile
yum-3.2.19/docs/yum.conf.5
yum-3.2.19/docs/yum-shell.8
yum-3.2.19/rpmUtils/
yum-3.2.19/rpmUtils/transaction.py
yum-3.2.19/rpmUtils/oldUtils.py
yum-3.2.19/rpmUtils/updates.py
yum-3.2.19/rpmUtils/arch.py
yum-3.2.19/rpmUtils/__init__.py
yum-3.2.19/rpmUtils/Makefile
yum-3.2.19/rpmUtils/miscutils.py
yum-3.2.19/rpmUtils/tests/
yum-3.2.19/rpmUtils/tests/updates-test.py
yum-3.2.19/callback.py
yum-3.2.19/yum/
yum-3.2.19/yum/logginglevels.py
yum-3.2.19/yum/i18n.py
yum-3.2.19/yum/callbacks.py
yum-3.2.19/yum/update_md.py
yum-3.2.19/yum/rpmsack.py
yum-3.2.19/yum/misc.py
yum-3.2.19/yum/parser.py
yum-3.2.19/yum/mdparser.py
yum-3.2.19/yum/rpmtrans.py
yum-3.2.19/yum/__init__.py
yum-3.2.19/yum/packageSack.py
yum-3.2.19/yum/Errors.py
yum-3.2.19/yum/repoMDObject.py
yum-3.2.19/yum/sqlitesack.py
yum-3.2.19/yum/config.py
yum-3.2.19/yum/Makefile
yum-3.2.19/yum/metalink.py
yum-3.2.19/yum/transactioninfo.py
yum-3.2.19/yum/packages.py
yum-3.2.19/yum/pgpmsg.py
yum-3.2.19/yum/comps.py
yum-3.2.19/yum/repos.py
yum-3.2.19/yum/constants.py
yum-3.2.19/yum/failover.py
yum-3.2.19/yum/yumRepo.py
yum-3.2.19/yum/sqlutils.py
yum-3.2.19/yum/plugins.py
yum-3.2.19/yum/depsolve.py
yum-3.2.19/TODO
yum-3.2.19/INSTALL
yum-3.2.19/etc/
yum-3.2.19/etc/yum.console
yum-3.2.19/etc/yum.conf
yum-3.2.19/etc/yum.pam
yum-3.2.19/etc/yum-updatesd-dbus.conf
yum-3.2.19/etc/yum-updatesd.conf
yum-3.2.19/etc/yum.logrotate
yum-3.2.19/etc/Makefile
yum-3.2.19/etc/yum-updatesd.init
yum-3.2.19/yum.spec
yum-3.2.19/yum-updatesd.py
yum-3.2.19/FAQ
yum-3.2.19/AUTHORS
yum-3.2.19/test/
yum-3.2.19/test/simpleupdatetests.py
yum-3.2.19/test/packagetests.py
yum-3.2.19/test/testbase.py
yum-3.2.19/test/simpleobsoletestests.py
yum-3.2.19/test/skipbroken-tests.py
yum-3.2.19/test/yum-release-test.sh
yum-3.2.19/test/simpleremovetests.py
yum-3.2.19/test/misc-tests.py
yum-3.2.19/test/depsolvetests.py
yum-3.2.19/test/operationstests.py
yum-3.2.19/test/yum-release-i18n-test.sh
yum-3.2.19/test/settestpath.py
yum-3.2.19/test/transactiontests.py
yum-3.2.19/test/check-po-yes-no.py
yum-3.2.19/cli.py
yum-3.2.19/utils.py
yum-3.2.19/.gitignore
yum-3.2.19/bin/
yum-3.2.19/bin/yum.py
yum-3.2.19/bin/yum-updatesd.py
yum-3.2.19/Makefile
yum-3.2.19/po/
yum-3.2.19/po/da.po
yum-3.2.19/po/ca.po
yum-3.2.19/po/nb.po
yum-3.2.19/po/pl.po
yum-3.2.19/po/ms.po
yum-3.2.19/po/sr@latin.po
yum-3.2.19/po/fr.po
yum-3.2.19/po/pt_BR.po
yum-3.2.19/po/it.po
yum-3.2.19/po/de.po
yum-3.2.19/po/Makefile
yum-3.2.19/po/pt.po
yum-3.2.19/po/sr.po
yum-3.2.19/po/yum.pot
yum-3.2.19/po/POTFILES.in
yum-3.2.19/po/ru.po
yum-3.2.19/po/pygettext.py
yum-3.2.19/po/zh_CN.po
yum-3.2.19/output.py
yum-3.2.19/yumcommands.py
yum-3.2.19/README
yum-3.2.19/yummain.py
yum-3.2.19/COPYING
yum-3.2.19/shell.py
yum-3.2.19/ChangeLog
yum-3.2.19/PLUGINS
[root@LINPUS yum]# ls
yum-3.2.19 yum-3.2.19.tar.gz
[root@LINPUS yum]# cd yum-3.2.19
[root@LINPUS yum-3.2.19]# /.configure
bash: /.configure: No such file or directory


once again, it stops when i reach ./configure.

nothing i do seem to be working :(
it's getting quite frustrating. if i dont have an existing package manager, at least let me have yum.
please please please help.

johnrc 09-27-2008 04:48 PM

Hope springs eternal....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chesquita (Post 3291005)
Hi johnrc, thanks. Tried what you suggested. Did all the steps again in xfce-setting-show plus password configuration but still no menu shows up in my desktop when i rightclick. Tried the second trick and here's what i got after gunzip:

[linpus@LINPUS ~]$ sudo rpm -i desktop-switch-0.3-1.i386.rpm
file /etc/rc.d/rc.5 from install of desktop-switch-0.3-1 conflicts with file from package initscripts-8.31.5-olpc_generic
file /etc/rc.d/rc.S from install of desktop-switch-0.3-1 conflicts with file from package initscripts-8.31.5-olpc_generic
file /etc/rc.d/session/desktop.xml.desktop from install of desktop-switch-0.3-1 conflicts with file from package change-desktop-1.0-1lp
file /etc/rc.d/session/desktop.xml.new from install of desktop-switch-0.3-1 conflicts with file from package change-desktop-1.0-1lp
file /etc/rc.d/session/panels.xml.desktop from install of desktop-switch-0.3-1 conflicts with file from package change-desktop-1.0-1lp
file /etc/rc.d/session/panels.xml.new from install of desktop-switch-0.3-1 conflicts with file from package change-desktop-1.0-1lp
file /etc/rc.d/session/switch-desk.sh from install of desktop-switch-0.3-1 conflicts with file from package change-desktop-1.0-1lp
file /etc/rc.d/session/xfce4-session.rc.desktop from install of desktop-switch-0.3-1 conflicts with file from package change-desktop-1.0-1lp
file /etc/rc.d/session/xfce4-session.rc.new from install of desktop-switch-0.3-1 conflicts with file from package change-desktop-1.0-1lp


Note: I am using Linpus Lite but on another machine, not on the Acer One. Could this be a significant factor?

What could be the matter? Im so excited to break in this baby already! Thanks.


First.... I don't know what's wrong there, I don't know if "a different machine" matters or not, though I suspect "not" is the answer....
BUT....
Second.... I have had the thing misbehave also, but after doing a complete re-install it's always behaved perfectly. I think this is because I sometimes mistype things (good excuse for making mistakes due to lack of knowledge!) However, two other things I will mention -
1 - After doing a re-install, do the 'Live Update' - there are some bugs in the original disc copy.
2 - When you do the live update, don't panic if you think it's gone to sleep forever - especially when it asks you to reboot - a large cup of coffee and some biscuits cures that problem - it just seems so damn slow at times.

Other people have also had trouble, especially with the xfce desktop change thing, and some of them have subsequently posted that it all works after a proper re-install. My suspicion (gut feeling, nothing else) is that we're all used to things happening quickly, and the random key prods we make may foul things up!

johnrc 09-27-2008 04:53 PM

Just an afterthought - after looking at your log there, I wonder if the install you've got already has the feature installed, but you haven't found out where to trigger it from? ("change-desktop" and "desktop-switch" are likely a similar feature.)


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