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Old 07-15-2005, 01:31 AM   #1
Rhadryn
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Stumped, did I not install something?


I just installed Fedora Core 4. I am also running Windows XP on the computer. I had two partitions, 64 gig for Windows XP, and 11 gig for Fedora. I installed Fedora fairly easily, but I had to do the minimum installation because it kept saying that I did not have any space to do more. I believe the total space ended up being around 1200 MB. I installed Windows X, but no Gnome or KDE, which I think might be the problem. I had intended to increase the size of the Fedora partition after I installed it, because from what I understood there were free partition editing programs available only for linux.
I tried to continue following these installation instructions, but after I logged in the instructions differed significantly from what I saw. After I restarted I noticed that I now have another partition, but it doesn't have anything on it and doesn't seem to take up any space. So I'm stuck. What should I do?
 
Old 07-15-2005, 01:46 AM   #2
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The extra partition may be your swap partition, used in case the OS needs more memory. As far as your general problem, you need to have a window manager for your XWindows System (GNOME or KDE or Enlightenment, etc) in order to effectively use it.

You might want to consider using a LiveCD such as Knoppix in order to make the most of limited disk space. That or shitcan windows

Hope this helps...
 
Old 07-15-2005, 01:48 AM   #3
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The simplest thing to do is get a copy of the program Symantec "Partition Magic", list is about $70 US.
It is dedicated for managing and changing partitions, very easy, very reliable. Before you start though, some beginner info:

Windows XP uses NTFS type partitions only.
Linux normally uses ext2 or ext3 (3 is added journalling I think?)

You cannot dynamically resize a linux volume unless you use some additional software, like lvm, or another virtual volume manager.

If you resize the Windows partition with Windows installed, be very careful you don't destroy WXP data! Try to thoroughly defragment the disk beforehand. Watch out for hidden "restore" partitions used by HP/Compaq and the like frequently, instead of giving you proper CD or DVD roms.

The simplest solution is the following (if you don't need to run a really intensive server appliation requiring lots of swap memory)

partition 1 = NTFS (Windows XP)
partition 2 = ext2 (Linux)

You can adjust the sizes as you wish, but the Linux one should really be at least 10 GB. I'm running old RH8, and have a 4GB partition, and it is 98% full.

Hope this helps, good luck!
 
Old 07-15-2005, 01:51 AM   #4
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Thanks, I should have figured that. So short of using a different distro, is there any way I can make more space so I can install a window manager? It's strange that it asks for more, I would think that ten gig was enough. Another thing, I don't see any folders on either of my drives with anything about Fedora. Does that matter?

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Old 07-15-2005, 02:17 AM   #5
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If you can decrease the Windows partition, try giving FC4 more space, you will have to reinstall it from scratch, including GNOME this time. You can leave out OpenOffice and most of the applications, games etc to save space.

There are lots of other distributions that are much smaller, FC is one of the fattest. I can't recommend anything in particular though, look around this site.

Finally, if you mean when you boot windows, you don't see any folders referencing fedora, that is normal. Windows XP only boots on NTFS. Linux will not recognize NTFS. So you would need to create another FAT32 partition somewhere to be able to access files from both OS.
 
Old 07-15-2005, 03:24 AM   #6
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11 Gig - what a bloody joke !!!

The two most popular "newbie" distros are Ubuntu, and Mepis.
The Mepis my lady uses, with everything (KDE), comes in at just over 2 Gig - plus swap space.
Found the wireless PCI card, got an IP from my DHCP router, plays DVDs - the lot.
Excellent - and 2 Gig.

On my "play" machine, I put Ubuntu back on last week; it uses Gnome. A bit over 1.5 (that's one and a half) Gig - plus swap.
Had to screw around to get DVDs working (a legacy of the Debian political soul-searching), but the wiki is pretty good.
Even Solaris 10 on that machine comes in at less than 4 Gig.

My advice - give Fedora the flick; that is just *so* ridiculous. Go with one of Mepis or Ubuntu.

Addendum: just went and looked at an old Redhat 9 install I did years ago. Just fits in 4 Gig !!!.
Holy mackeral - these people obviously have a history of this.

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Old 07-15-2005, 07:05 AM   #7
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There are free partitioning tools for resizing. parted is a console application and qtparted is a GUI.

How did you create the 11 GB partition for linux? It is best to leave unallocated space and allow the installer to create the necessary partitions.

It would be easier to delete the existing linux parititions and reinstall.
 
Old 07-15-2005, 12:10 PM   #8
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Thanks to you all, I found out that I wasn't installing Fedora on the correct partition. I switched it to the one with ten+ gigs, and it has worked beautifully ever since. And I appreciate the info on the partitioning software, I will have much use for that.
 
Old 07-28-2005, 08:52 AM   #9
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You can use partition magic 8

I am trying to install Fedora C4. This is my first time using Linux and i think i will like it ...

I like the enlightment manager, i hope i can install it later..
 
Old 07-28-2005, 10:55 AM   #10
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Yup, use SimplyMEPIS 3.3. I already had Norton Partition Magic, but it refused to boot after I installed Solaris onto my machine already running Windows XP, so I downloaded MEPIS and used QTPartED (It seems to work in EXACTLY the same way as Partiton Magic) to solve that problem and fell in love
 
Old 07-28-2005, 11:46 AM   #11
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Just installed Fedora Core 4 but unfortunantly Gnome was automatically installed too..

I want to change to englightment. Can anyone please help me out with this?

This is my first day using Linux :P
 
  


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