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I'm still searching forums,google and reading books to find the answer to why mail progs. reject my isp entry. Surely someone out there has had the same problem when setting up linux. If nothing happens soon I will have to give up and go back to using windows full time ( now I will have to wash my mouth out with soap) .
I can get onto the web ok but I have to set up the connection everytime, also, what indication is there that says I'm connected e.g. an icon somewhere that can de clicked on to disconnect (just like windows), for the mail I enter the same as windows i.e. pop1.ns.sympatico.ca and smtp1.ns.sympatico.ca Thanks for taking the time to help as I do not want to go back to Gatesland. Thanks for the link, I'll try to ask more intelligently in future.
Usually there's no visible indication you're online (when it's a broadband). If you're using dial-up and you (your user) has established the connection, there should be dialer program icon in the system tray (righ-down corner of the screen).
The method you can always use is to ping them. 'Ping' is a small message sent to the server to see if it's up and if you can reach it. The command to do this is
ping -c 4 hostname
'-c 4' is an option that allows 4 such messages to be sent. It's OK in most cases. When I tries to ping both servers you mentioned, it looks that the first one blocks pings (it has worng POP3 server) and the second one is not accessible from my location. To test your connection you can ping a site that you know that accept pings (like www.linuxquestions.org or www.google.com).