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Old 01-08-2002, 08:59 PM   #16
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I think you were looking at the model A75f on the ViewSonic site because it's vSync is 160, whereas the A75s has a vSync of 180. I heard somewhere that the Radeon 7500 board has a different enough chip from the orginial Radeon that the XFree86 drivers need an update. I'm willing to bet on it too. So I removed the pipe from the id on the monitor just to see what would happen and it didn't work. Here is the log file with all the details...

XFree86 Version 4.1.0 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510)
Release Date: 2 June 2001
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.8-5mdkenterprise i686 [ELF]
Module Loader present
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Tue Jan 8 20:28:05 2002
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4"
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) ServerLayout "layout1"
(**) |-->Screen "screen1" (0)
(**) | |-->Monitor "ViewSonic A75s"
(**) | |-->Device "ATI Radeon"
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse1"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard1"
(**) Option "AutoRepeat" "250 30"
(**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
(**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"
(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
(**) XKB: model: "pc105"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "us"
(**) XKB: layout: "us"
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) FontPath set to "unix/:-1"
(**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
(**) Option "AllowMouseOpenFail"
(--) using VT number 7

(II) Open APM successful
(II) Module ABI versions:
XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1
XFree86 Video Driver: 0.4
XFree86 XInput driver : 0.2
XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1
XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.2
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: "bitmap"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4
(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x8000682c, mode1Res1 = 0x80000000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)

//blah blah blah

(II) LoadModule: "scanpci"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4
(II) UnloadModule: "scanpci"
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (-1,0,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set)

//blah blah blah

(II) LoadModule: "dbe"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a
(II) Module dbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Server Extension
ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1
(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
(II) LoadModule: "extmod"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a
(II) Module extmod: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Server Extension
ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1
(II) Loading extension SHAPE
(II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
(II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS
(II) Loading extension SYNC
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XC-MISC
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension FontCache
(II) Loading extension TOG-CUP
(II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
(II) LoadModule: "type1"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libtype1.a
(II) Module type1: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2
(II) Loading font Type1
(II) Loading font CID
(II) LoadModule: "freetype"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.a
(II) Module freetype: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.1.9
Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2
(II) Loading font FreeType
(II) LoadModule: "radeon"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o
(II) Module radeon: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 4.0.1
Module class: XFree86 Video Driver
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4
(II) LoadModule: "ati"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ati_drv.o
(II) Module ati: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 6.3.6
Module class: XFree86 Video Driver
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4
(II) LoadModule: "mouse"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o
(II) Module mouse: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 XInput Driver
ABI class: XFree86 XInput driver, version 0.2
(II) ATI: ATI driver (version 6.3.6) for chipsets: ati, ativga
(II) R128: Driver for ATI Rage 128 chipsets: ATI Rage 128 RE (PCI),
ATI Rage 128 RF (AGP), ATI Rage 128 RG (AGP), ATI Rage 128 RK (PCI),
ATI Rage 128 RL (AGP), ATI Rage 128 SM (AGP),
ATI Rage 128 Pro PD (PCI), ATI Rage 128 Pro PF (AGP),
ATI Rage 128 Pro ULTRA TF (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro ULTRA TL (AGP),
ATI Rage 128 Pro ULTRA TR (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Mobility LE (PCI),
ATI Rage 128 Mobility LF (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Mobility MF (AGP),
ATI Rage 128 Mobility ML (AGP)
(II) RADEON: Driver for ATI Radeon chipsets: ATI Radeon QD (AGP),
ATI Radeon QE (AGP), ATI Radeon QF (AGP), ATI Radeon QG (AGP),
ATI Radeon VE QY (AGP), ATI Radeon VE QZ (AGP),
ATI Radeon Mobility LW (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility LY (AGP),
ATI Radeon Mobility LZ (AGP)
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0
(--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device
(EE) No devices detected.

Fatal server error:
no screens found

When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send
the full server output, not just the last messages.
This can be found in the log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log".
Please report problems to xfree86@xfree86.org.
 
Old 01-08-2002, 09:02 PM   #17
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I just pulled this off of a FreeBSD forum:

Currently the CVS version of XFree86 4.1.99_X radeon driver supports:

(II) RADEON: Driver for ATI Radeon chipsets: ATI Radeon QD (AGP),
ATI Radeon QE (AGP), ATI Radeon QF (AGP), ATI Radeon QG (AGP),
ATI Radeon VE QY (AGP), ATI Radeon VE QZ (AGP),
ATI Radeon Mobility LW (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility LY (AGP),
ATI Radeon Mobility LZ (AGP), ATI Radeon 8500 QL (AGP),
ATI Radeon 7500 QW (AGP)

I've heard about this CVS thing before but I don't know what it is, where to get it, or what to do with it...
 
Old 01-08-2002, 10:22 PM   #18
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Aha..I was thinking you had an older radeon....now I see how serious the problem is. CVS is Concurrent Version System, its a way for developers and testers to update to the latest source code for a project without having to download the entire code. If you want to try that you will have to compile X from source...not a task that I'd be keen on.
 
Old 01-09-2002, 01:34 AM   #19
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Hmmmm...compile X from source. What have I gotten myself into! Thanks for all the help thus far. If I do pursue compling X, where might be a good place to begin my research on the ins and outs of compiling source code in Linux?
 
Old 01-09-2002, 01:51 AM   #20
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Quote:
Originally posted by x^n
Hmmmm...compile X from source. What have I gotten myself into! Thanks for all the help thus far. If I do pursue compling X, where might be a good place to begin my research on the ins and outs of compiling source code in Linux?
First place to start would be the Linux Documentation Project. It might be best if you can get hold of a supported card for a while, do you have an older radeon you can use? The next release of X (4.2.0) is due soon, it was originally going to be out in November last year but has been put back. If the CVS version is up to 4.1.99 then 4.2.0 is not far away now....touch wood....The "ati" drivers in X are usually of a fairly high standard, I'm planning to ditch my geforce for a 8500 as soon as X supports them, not because the geforce is a bad card but because I'm sick of the hastle it takes to get the 3d drivers working and stable.
 
Old 01-09-2002, 02:20 AM   #21
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The 8500 is a sweet deal. I love the idea of having dual monitor support AND fast 3d performance. My next card is gonna be the All in Wonder 8500. Anyway, I'll check out that site. Until the new driver set comes out, how can I reset X to use the drivers it used when I first installed Mandrake. When I first installed Mandrake it was using drivers for a different card but at least they worked. I can't remember which drivers they were but can't I use a generic set? There was a real problem with the refresh though that whenever I would scroll or drag windows around it would skip and be very SLOW. It was better than nothing though.
 
Old 01-09-2002, 02:46 AM   #22
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If you can't remember what driver it used then it might be easiest to use your mandrake cd's to update the install, don't pick any packages and reinstall Xfree at the end. Do an "expert upgrade".
 
Old 01-09-2002, 03:50 AM   #23
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Well, I'm in KDE right now. Thanks for the tip! The reinstall wasn't flawless though because LILO goofed up my dual boot setup, even though I canceled at the LILO install stage! It was no problem though getting it straightened out.
 
  


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